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8 PM MST - Tonight on Biblically Correct: “Once Saved Always Saved: Is It True?”
Biblically Correct ^ | 2006 | Pastor Bret Lovitz

Posted on 12/12/2006 4:24:01 PM PST by Ottofire

Our topic this week on Biblically Correct is: “Once Saved Always Saved: Is It True?”

Plus our regular features…

Notable Quotables Scripture Reading Survey Said Monthly Church Spotlight

Book Recommendation News Stories of the Week (Stories you will not hear about from most news shows)

Website Spotlight Grace Gems of the Week

Biblically Correct is broadcast on Time-Warner Cable Channel 8, and web cast every Tuesday night at 8pm Mountain Time after Grace Fellowship’s Sermons (7pm) at www.camera8.tv. Please watch, pray, comment, and tell others about this show. Thank you, and may God in His kindness and mercy, bless you.

Bret Lovitz, Pastor-Elder Grace Fellowship of Mtn. Home, ID www.gracefellowshipmh.org


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: biblicallycorrect; bretlovitz
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1 posted on 12/12/2006 4:24:04 PM PST by Ottofire
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To: Ottofire

Well, if you can lose your salvation, then I have absolutely no hope!


2 posted on 12/12/2006 4:25:26 PM PST by sauropod ("Come have some pie with me.")
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...

GRPL ping!

Tonight: The Perseverance of the Saints


3 posted on 12/12/2006 4:25:38 PM PST by Ottofire (O great God of highest heaven, Glorify Your Name through me)
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To: Ottofire

“Once Saved Always Saved: Is It True?”
YES, otherwise there is no hope.


4 posted on 12/12/2006 4:31:00 PM PST by svcw
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To: svcw; sauropod

Thank God and Blessed Jesus that we have nothing to add. Jesus' death was sufficient, and His promise is total and complete.

No works, no deeds, nothing can add to such a perfect gift!


5 posted on 12/12/2006 4:36:19 PM PST by Ottofire (O great God of highest heaven, Glorify Your Name through me)
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To: Ottofire
You can fall away and lose the free gift of salvation....

for lack of knowledge & rejected knowledge Hosea 4:6

that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not Matt 7:24-27

hearers only, deceiving your own selves James 1:22

beareth not fruit & abide not in me John 15:2,6

not a doer & forgetteth what manner of man he was James 1:22-24

faith without works is dead Jam 2:17-26

he that lacketh & hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins 2 Peter 1:9

unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures 2 Peter 3:16

err from the truth James 5:19-20

lust, and enticed James 1:13-16

the love of money 1 Timothy 6:10

be a friend of the world James 4:4

the pollutions of the world & again entangled therein & turned to his own vomit again 2 Peter 2:20-22

the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word Matt 13:22

have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away Luke 8:13

tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended Matt 13:21

be without chastisement Hebrews 12:6-8

servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death Romans 6:16

being led away with the error of the wicked 2 Peter 3:17

seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils 1 Timothy 4:1

an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 3:12-15

sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth Hebrews 10:26

having put away concerning faith & blaspheme 1 Timothy 1:18-20

counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing Hebrews 10:29


6 posted on 12/12/2006 4:44:31 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Responsibility2nd
More good stuff here:

Refuting "Once Saved Always Saved"

7 posted on 12/12/2006 4:46:35 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Ottofire

Who is sponsoring this?


8 posted on 12/12/2006 4:56:54 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I disagree. False faith is false faith, but it is a faith of sorts and can be called by the term 'faith'.

I will not play dueling scriptures, and by now, you should know that the Calvinist position is also outlined in the Bible.

When two verses collide you must find how they can be both true. Otherwise the scripture is not true in its entirety.


9 posted on 12/12/2006 4:57:43 PM PST by Ottofire (O great God of highest heaven, Glorify Your Name through me)
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To: Ottofire

Khalid Centanni comes to mind.


10 posted on 12/12/2006 4:58:35 PM PST by Enosh
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To: Ottofire
A great verse I found in my readings of Exodus recently.

Unfortunately I can only fit the first part on my tag line.

11 posted on 12/12/2006 4:58:46 PM PST by HarleyD ("You in Your mercy have led forth the people which You have redeemed." Ex 15:13)
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To: Salvation

The tv station is a local broadcast. The show will start at 8 MST, at some other time you are going to see some other program.

From the church website:

Grace Fellowship Of Mountain Home now sponsors a talk show called Biblically Correct which may be watched on Cam 8 on Tuesday's at 8:00 PM Mountain Time You can also watch the Web Cast Here.

Note: Grace Fellowship of Mountain Home in no way Agrees with all of the programming shown on Cam 8. We do however give all the praise honor and glory to the Lord for the ability to use this resource for ministry purposes.


12 posted on 12/12/2006 5:01:05 PM PST by Ottofire (O great God of highest heaven, Glorify Your Name through me)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You can fall away and lose the free gift of salvation....

Tell me again how "I'm" supposed to be good enough to save myself if I can't rely on a God
that "promised" he would never forsake me?

If I'm not "perfect" to begin with how do I rely on "myself" to save myself? Why did Jesus
have to die for me if it he can't keep me?

I guess if you can lose your salvation then you were never "eternally" saved in the first place. < /oxymoronic>

13 posted on 12/12/2006 5:09:31 PM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Ottofire
See the link in post # 7. Nothing but scriptures.

Disagree all you want, but you ain't disagreeing with me.

It's the Word of God that is plain. You have the free will to accept His gift, and also to reject it.

14 posted on 12/12/2006 5:10:04 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: sirchtruth
No preaching. No Calvinism. No man made doctrine. No blah, blah, blah.

Refuting "Once Saved Always Saved"

15 posted on 12/12/2006 5:14:45 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Responsibility2nd

***You can fall away and lose the free gift of salvation....***

When our righteousness is as filthy rags before the Lord what can we do to continue in this not so free gift of salvation? When do we know we have done enough?

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Hbr 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Mat 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth [it]; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Perhaps you are mistaking those above for those whose seed died out for various reasons.



16 posted on 12/12/2006 5:17:26 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM "If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."---Hirsi Ali)
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To: svcw; Ottofire

“Once Saved Always Saved: Is It True?”
YES, otherwise there is no hope.

Have you noticed that there are some who seem to be thrilled in believing that there is no security of the believer?


17 posted on 12/12/2006 5:20:16 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM "If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."---Hirsi Ali)
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To: Responsibility2nd
There is no way you understand any of those scriptures if you rely on anything other than
God's promise to keep you. What does, "Never leave you, nor forsake you", mean to you?
What about, "Nothing will snatch you out of my hand or the my Father's hand?" Ya think
Jesus just said those things to impress the Jews?

God delights in keeping his promises!

18 posted on 12/12/2006 5:22:35 PM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Not ONE of those verses you point me too contradicts "Eternally Saved!"

Do you know what the word(s)"Eternal" or Eternal Life means?

19 posted on 12/12/2006 5:30:41 PM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth

This is one of those questions that always stirs up strong feelings. So, if one repents and accepts Christ's gift of salvation, then some time later returns to a life of open sin and rebellion, dying with unrepented sin in his/her life, is he/she saved?


20 posted on 12/12/2006 5:36:28 PM PST by CA Conservative
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