You mean like the church shown here where people adorn a tomb with flowers and there is a statue of a man praying to other statues?
Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480
"Mary was "blessed among women"
I hadn't looked at it that way. It does seem kind of sexist. I wonder why she wasn't considered "blessed" among women and men or above all people or above all creation? Why only women? Maybe it's a code or something.
But He wasn't born before she was "blessed".
With all due respect, don't you think the worshipers of Zeus would say the same thing? "This statue isn't really Zeus but it helps me to revere him. Zeus is really in heaven."
I understand the distinction Catholics try to make of veneration over worship. It's theological hair splitting in my opinion. All one has to do is look up veneration in the dictionary.
I think the reason there's so many different churches is that Satan has succeeded in stealing a bunch of folks away from the faith, to fight amongst one another, and to (contrary to what St Paul taught) deliberatly proselytize against the true church.
You mean like the church shown here where people adorn a tomb with flowers and there is a statue of a man praying to other statues?
I think there is some secret code about this. Maybe the liberals are right and all this about women being in subjection and keeping silent is a conspiracy to keep men from finding it out.
Beautiful.
Thank you.
What do you mean?
Kosta;s point on this makes perfect sense. Folks venerate the flag during the pledge of alligeance, it's not flag worshipping.
That picture is so beautiful.
One thing I hope I can do before I die is visit great Cathedrals. I would love to travel Europe and see as many as I can.
I would also visit Mount Athos.
Kosta, Kolos, have you ever visited there?
"I think the reason there's so many different churches is that Satan has succeeded in stealing a bunch of folks away from the faith"
Maybe it is the reverse and people have escaped to the true faith. When people are set free there is pandemonium for a while "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ". Unity is not uniformity.
It is a historical, not a scriptural fact; we do, however, see St. Paul mentioning that he consecrated Timothy and Titus, and he tells them to ordain others.
So your position is that nobody lived in the "true faith" before the early 16th Century? And if this is the case, then why didn't everyone flee the Church in order to embrace a SINGLE "true faith"? The fact that Protestant groups have as many disagreements with each other as they do with the Church indicates that your suppositions are invalid.
I dunno.
There began 1 church.
At the time of the Great Schism it could be argued there were as many as 4-6. That was within 1000 years of Christ.
At which point the West has gone from 1 church into 20,000+.
To be sure Satan is leaping for joy at this.
He must laugh ecstatically when he sees churches professing to be the church Christ established but advocating women preaching in church, abortion to 'help the poor', blessing gay marriages, ordaining gay church leaders...
In 1250 Christians were crusading against other Christians. Murdering them, stealing from them, raping nuns.
By the Reformation Christians were murdering Christians for baptising children.
Today 'Christians' work hard to steal other professed Christians into churches that condone abortion, gay marriage, hay lifestyles, and every manner of sin which Christ spoke against.
I fail to see that as a sign that things are 'getting better'.
Christ prays for our unity, and St. Paul cries out "Is Christ divided?" I doubt they would agree with you.
However, there is a divine providence in that. If the Orthodox did not separate in 1054 we would not have their powerful witness to the Church of the Seven Councils today. If Luther did not leave the Church, we would not have a warning in front of us on how not to do Church.
You are not sure if a statue of a kneeling man indicates that he is praying but you are sure that a kneeling Catholic in the flesh is worshiping a saint?
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