Posted on 11/17/2006 9:32:22 PM PST by Louis Foxwell
(I have been wanting to express this for some time. A comment on another thread prompted me to put it in words.)
South Korea has some of the largest Christian churches in the world. They send missionaries to every nation including our own. They are, by all appearances, a great Christian nation, but their Christianity is a lie.
The most basic Christian impulse is to care for one's neighbor and to love one's brothers and sisters. South Korea is absolutely paranoid about a sudden influx of North Koreans into their society. They are not willing to threaten the comfort and wealth they have developed for the sake of desperately poor cousins to the north. This is NOT a Christian response. It is selfish and profoundly immoral.
South Koreans will lose their precious comforts because they are not willing to share them. Greed is their byword and poverty will be their reward. They will reap the whirlwind of their failure to be genuine Christians.
Have you opened your home to illegal aliens?
I wouldn't describe N. Koreans as slaves, but as rather staunch communists. I also have never met or understood S. Korea described as 'liberal'. I understand their policies regarding aid to the N. Koreans to be a passive measure to insure a liberal underground isn't formed to aid and abet communism within its own borders.
The ROK Marines weren't exactly known for their 'liberal' tendencies. They might be more easily interpretted as being so conservative as to be too legalistic, but hardly too liberal, IMHO.
BTW, the oppression of the N. Koreans isn't being caused by S. Korea. The heart of that opposition is N. Korea.
The policies you are encouraging are the heart of socialist dogma to promote and artificially prop up the corrupt government of N. Korea. They smack of a typical antichristian campaign to associate force with legalism and ignore the enforcement of legitimate authority and the defense of liberty and freedom.
Better yet, have the homes been opened to criminal illegal aliens who believe they are better arbiters of our private property than their previous owners? Opening one's home to home invasion is a more direct analogy.
Also, it is quite apparent that you are completely ignorant of the situation, past and present, which exists on the peninsula - get a clue before you comment! While you’re at it, seek some professional help. You seem to be a very misguided person and potentially a danger to yourself and others.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Thank you for your crude invective. Yoour admonitions might be better served by applying them to yourself.
North Korea is a nation of slaves. There is a tiny fraction who are party members, especially the military leadership. These few live in absolute luxury.
The poor, about 95% of the nation, live in conditions of persistent starvation. Gestapo tactics including severe beatings, murder and imprisonment leading to death are the norm.
I NEVER suggested cooperating with the North Korean regime. Quite the contrary, it is just those efforts by the South Korean government that prop up this murderous regime. That is what I oppose. There is no attempt to bring these desperate people out from under the horrors of their daily lives.
Christians in the South should be working to bring down this evil empire. It deserves to be destroyed.
Thank you Betty. This thread is an excellent example of the knee jerk tendencies of some Freepers. A number of people here have leapt to precisely the wrong interpretation of my words and then piled on in a gleeful attempt to discredit my words.
I never need to look far to find examples of the attitudes that Amos was faced with. He spoke to a people who arrogantly discredited his words. They did not want to hear the Word of God but stuffed up their ears and ridiculed Amos, distorting his warnings.
Even my feeble attempts to emulate the great prophet Amos incur vitriolic contempt based on distortion. The ears of those who claim to know the Word are stopped up. How shall they hear?
The Berlin Wall was a sieve compared to the Korean DMZ. And the DMZ "has" to be that way, because NK is constantly sending agents and provocateurs into the South. Any "escapee" HAS to be looked at twice and three times to be sure he (or she) is not a NK agent.
The ears of those who claim to know the Word are stopped up. How shall they hear?
Amos, you are perhaps the most ignorant in your words on this thread. Yes, some have been crude in responding to you, but in reality, you have virtually no basis for your position.
I would have to say no.
I was serious, Amos. If you are going to judge others, then you will be judged in the same manner. By calling South Koreans unchristian because they are not opening their country to waves of North Korean immigrants, you are insisting that anyone who does not open their homes to strangers is not being a true Christian. Therefore, I should expect that you should have opened your home to waves of illegal immigrants and given them shelter in your home.
So I am judging you by that criteria. Hence, unless your home is filled to capacity by homeless people and illegal immigrants, then you, my friend, are a hypocrite.
So which is it? Is your home filled with the homeless and illegal immigrants, or are you a hypocrite?
You apparently have not read the couple of clips at post 52. They demonstrate that the story of the Koreas is not being told by the MSM, surprise.
My position is very simple. There are millions of people living under a brutal, opressive regime that threatens the peace of the world. Little or nothing is being done to help those people escape the brutal disctatorship they are living under.
The powerful Christian community in South Korea seems not to care. Is this not manifestly obvious?
All manner of reationale has been put forward including that I have no basis in fact for my position. Sometimes the most obvious and simple facts are the most difficult to see.
Quite apart from your ad hominem tactics, is what I am saying true or false? Are horribly oppressed people in North Korea being ignored for essentially political motivations?
So Amos, is it? Or should you keep your mouth shut on this issue.
My house is not filled to capacity with strangers and illegal aliens and homeless people. So, is my Christianity "a lie"?
Is yours? Are you willing to judge yourself by the same measure that you judge South Koreans?
So I am judging you by that criteria. Hence, unless your home is filled to capacity by homeless people and illegal immigrants, then you, my friend, are a hypocrite.
Did you even read your own vanity post?
How about here:
The most basic Christian impulse is to care for one's neighbor and to love one's brothers and sisters. South Korea is absolutely paranoid about a sudden influx of North Koreans into their society. They are not willing to threaten the comfort and wealth they have developed for the sake of desperately poor cousins to the north. This is NOT a Christian response. It is selfish and profoundly immoral.
So Amos, if you are not willing to threaten your own comfort and wealth by inviting the homeless and illegal aliens to live in your house, then you are at least as bad a Christian example as those you accuse.
That, by your own definition would make you selfish and profoundly immoral.
I don't think you are. I just think you are wrong to judge the Christianity of South Koreans because they have not opened their country to waves of illegal immigrants.
Personally, I am not willing to allow the current waves of illegal immigrants to continue to freely cross our borders. Are you? Does that make me immoral?
Is this an admission that I have not said what you accuse me of? I do not think it is, but you have extrapolated from my words to your interpretation. I am willing to defend my words, not your misrepresentation of them.
To wit:
I never mentioned illegal aliens and I never said that anyone should bring anyone else into their home.
That there is a humanitarian crisis in North Korea is undeniable. That no steps are being taken by those in the South to end that crisis is equally undeniable. That Christians in the South are not demanding an end to the slaughter of innocents in North Korea is a blight on their Christianity.
When will Christians not only in South Korea but also here in the US demand an end to the slaughter of citizens by their own governments? When do political cosiderations end? When does moral outrage begin?
Finally, and, yes. If helping others overcome oppression means personal sacrifice, nothing is closer to Jesus' teachings.
I don't know where you get your information that the Christians in South Korea are not concerned with the plight of North Koreans. Unless you can document that every Christian in South Korea cares nothing for the plight of North Korean citizens, then I think you owe the Christian Churches of South Korea an apology.
Where is your documentation.
And are you in favor of letting every underpriviledged human being on earth inside our Country? Should we open our borders to all comers?
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