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South Korea, a Failed Christian Nation
Vanity | 11/17/06 | Amos the Prophet

Posted on 11/17/2006 9:32:22 PM PST by Louis Foxwell

(I have been wanting to express this for some time. A comment on another thread prompted me to put it in words.)

South Korea has some of the largest Christian churches in the world. They send missionaries to every nation including our own. They are, by all appearances, a great Christian nation, but their Christianity is a lie.

The most basic Christian impulse is to care for one's neighbor and to love one's brothers and sisters. South Korea is absolutely paranoid about a sudden influx of North Koreans into their society. They are not willing to threaten the comfort and wealth they have developed for the sake of desperately poor cousins to the north. This is NOT a Christian response. It is selfish and profoundly immoral.

South Koreans will lose their precious comforts because they are not willing to share them. Greed is their byword and poverty will be their reward. They will reap the whirlwind of their failure to be genuine Christians.


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1 posted on 11/17/2006 9:32:23 PM PST by Louis Foxwell
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To: Amos the Prophet
"Greed is their byword and poverty will be their reward."
To him who has much, even more will be given. Unless devastated by a war, they will not end in poverty. And even if devastated, they will pick themselves up.
2 posted on 11/17/2006 9:41:04 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Amos the Prophet

So I take it you are pro illegal immigrant in the U.S.? There is a world of difference between being cruel and self-defense/protecting one's nation.

Defending one's self, family, nation, or property, for that matter, does NOT make a person a non-Christian.


3 posted on 11/17/2006 9:47:39 PM PST by madison10 (If my people, who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray...I will heal their land.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

With all due respect, this ranks up there with the worst vanity ever.


4 posted on 11/17/2006 9:59:34 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Amos the Prophet

So Amos the Prophet, when was the last time you were actually in Korea?


5 posted on 11/17/2006 10:09:26 PM PST by ikka
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To: Amos the Prophet

Amos, I must beg to differ with your interpretation.

First, they aren't frightened about letting North Koreans into their country. They are frightened about letting soldiers and an influx of desperate people along side pillaging everything in sight.

Second, North Koreans are not necessarily "brothers" in Christ. Christians are just supposed to give everything over to everyone. Paul reprimanded one church for having done just that in preparation for the coming of Christ. Did Paul, the Apostles, or Christ say for everyone to give everything away? No. But Christ did tell us to be willing to offer help to others when prompted. But this does not necessarily mean to the detriment of your other responsibilities, such as your family and your commitment to your church.

South Korea may have spiritual issues, but you've targeted their situation in a truly bizarre, and I believe wrong, way.


6 posted on 11/17/2006 10:13:46 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Amos the Prophet

Pablum or meat? milk or solid food?


7 posted on 11/17/2006 10:30:48 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: Amos the Prophet

It's not greed, it's self preservation.


8 posted on 11/17/2006 11:19:23 PM PST by SirAllen (Liberalism*2 = Communism)
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To: Amos the Prophet
Actually, there have been several words from real prophets saying that after Pajama Boy is gone, the next leader will seek reunification with the South and they will open up there arms and help big time.
9 posted on 11/18/2006 3:47:59 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Amos the Prophet

How weird.


10 posted on 11/18/2006 4:59:35 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: AmericaUnited

What discerning criteria is used between real prophets and false prophets?


11 posted on 11/18/2006 5:02:34 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Amos the Prophet
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12 posted on 11/18/2006 5:07:33 AM PST by bad company ([link:www.truthout.org/docs_2006/083006J.shtml | The Path to 9/11])
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To: Cvengr

What discerning criteria is used between real prophets and false prophets?




Interesting you should ask. Try reading Amos. He was despised by his people who were living in comfort and luxury. He told them that they placed their creature comforts above the Lord.
Just so with the South Koreans, as most of the posts here demonstrate. I must call my brothers and sisters in Christ on their failure to work effectively toward reunification. They are not doing so.
Typically a false prophet tells you what you want to hear, not what you need to hear.


13 posted on 11/18/2006 5:40:51 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: padre35

Pablum or meat? milk or solid food?

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Thank you. Tender digestions have difficulty with meat and potatoes.


14 posted on 11/18/2006 5:44:10 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
They are, by all appearances, a great Christian nation, but their Christianity is a lie. The most basic Christian impulse is to care for one's neighbor and to love one's brothers and sisters. South Korea is absolutely paranoid about a sudden influx of North Koreans into their society. They are not willing to threaten the comfort and wealth they have developed for the sake of desperately poor cousins to the north. This is NOT a Christian response. It is selfish and profoundly immoral.

You make a grand, sweeping accusation against South Korean and it's Christians, on what factual basis? Have you been over there? Do you personally know all of the things they have tried to do to help the North? I noticed you have not responded to questions such as these in this thread. Who are you to judge them, and on what basis?

P.S. Have you invited 10 inner city ghetto families from the city closest to you (your neighbors) to live in tents on your property, rent free? NO?! Now you're in judgment and will have doom come upon you... /sarcasm

15 posted on 11/18/2006 6:18:35 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Amos the Prophet

I haven't observed any Korean believers, from either North or South, fail to exhibit love for their fellow man or their fellow believers in Christ.

I have observed a split body of people, generally of one race and tongue, also known as a nation, with many unbelievers with very real animosities towards anything Christian.

National governance is a divine institution for believers and unbelievers alike. When the legitimate authority of national governance is violated, the divine blessings available to that institution are infringed.

If unbelievers from North Korea attempt to invade the South Korean nation and remove the freedoms of believers to study Scripture and witness the Gospel, such actions are nowhere defended in Scripture.

More primal than love for one's fellow man, is for each and every believer to remain in fellowship with God through faith in Christ by His protocol. Loving one's fellow man as oneself includes the use of force to defend legitimate authority and living within the domain of legitimate authority and respecting those authorities.

The existence of conflict doesn't entail love doesn't exist. On the contrary, a true perseverant love will always result in separation between good and evil, especially when divinely judged.

Forgiveness without repentence merely implies the degeneration of good to accept the force of evil.


16 posted on 11/18/2006 6:36:03 AM PST by Cvengr
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Spoken as a true Christian aparatchek. Clearly political issues hold sway over humanitarian concerns in this divided nation.
I am deeply disturbed as a fellow Christian that there is no attempt to encourage North Koreans, reduced to eating the bark from trees, to escape to the South and be assimilated. Why is there no underground railroad freeing the slaves of the North? Why is the answer to the death of hundreds of thousands by starvation always couched in a dehumanizing political context?
South Korea could end the evil regime by applying some of their vaunted Christian compassion in the form of offering hope to people who have no hope.
Surely they are clever enough to figure out how to do this in a systematic, organized fashion.
The simple, awful truth remains that the South enforces the rigidity and evil of the North by refusing to offer sanctuary to some of the most blighted people in the world.


17 posted on 11/18/2006 7:07:29 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
The most basic Christian impulse is to care for one's neighbor and to love one's brothers and sisters. South Korea is absolutely paranoid about a sudden influx of North Koreans into their society. They are not willing to threaten the comfort and wealth they have developed for the sake of desperately poor cousins to the north. This is NOT a Christian response. It is selfish and profoundly immoral.

Sorta like the anti-illegal immigration types around here?

18 posted on 11/18/2006 7:12:08 AM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: Amos the Prophet
Baloney. The problem is that the regime in the North has set up essentially impenetrable barriers to people trying to leave. "Lack of Christian compassion" by South Korea has zip to do with it. There is this thing called the "de-militarized zone" (which is anything BUT) along the entire border between the two countries. Exactly HOW is the South supposed to set up an "underground railroad" through THAT???

Your "thesis" is laughable.

19 posted on 11/18/2006 7:15:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: jude24
Sorta like the anti-illegal immigration types around here?

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It is simply not helpful to make comparisons unless you are prepared to compare our experience during our Civil War.

North Koreans are not welcomed to escape into the South. When they do they are returned to a death sentence. The South is attempting to live in a bubble. It will burst and they will be devastated.

20 posted on 11/18/2006 7:25:52 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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