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Vatican experts say Pope may propose reform of liturgical music in coming weeks
Catholic News Agency ^ | November 6, 2006

Posted on 11/06/2006 1:41:11 PM PST by NYer

Vatican City, Nov. 06, 2006 (CNA) - Sources close the Holy See are saying that during his upcoming visit to the St. Cecilia Music Academy Pope Benedict XVI may address the need to recover the quality of sacred music in the liturgical life of the Church.

The feast of St. Cecilia, patroness of music, will be celebrated on November 22, and the Pontiff has announced that during that week he intends to visit the academy of music in Rome that bears the saint’s name.

According to Vatican sources consulted by the Catholic News Agency, the Holy Father, who has expressed his concern over liturgical music, may address the need to recover the place of sacred music, “both Gregorian and polyphonic,” in the Catholic liturgy.

“This pronouncement could even take the form of a ‘Motu Propio,’ an official document issued on the Holy Father’s own initiative,” sources said.

Since the election of Pope Benedict XVI, sacred music has been given greater attention in the Roman liturgy

On November 19, as part of the year of Mozart—one of Pope’s favorite composers—Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, Archbishop of Vienna, will preside at a Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica, in which the famous Philharmonic Orchestra of Vienna will present Mozart’s Mass of Coronation.

Although no time has been official allotted for remarks by the Holy Father, it is possible he will address the faithful at the conclusion of the liturgical celebration.


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To: ArrogantBustard
I, for one, am sick of "sources" predicting this, that, or the other wonderful new thing out of the Vatican.

I said it first!

21 posted on 11/06/2006 4:10:23 PM PST by Tax-chick ("If we have no fear, Pentecost comes again." ~ Bishop William Curlin)
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To: Huber

A mighty fortress is our God! A bulwark never failing. How firm a foundation, you saint of the Lord, is laid for your faith in His excellent Word!


22 posted on 11/06/2006 4:11:06 PM PST by Tax-chick ("If we have no fear, Pentecost comes again." ~ Bishop William Curlin)
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To: NYer

Just what liturgical music needs: a proclamation from the Vatican.


23 posted on 11/06/2006 4:12:08 PM PST by firebrand
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To: ArrogantBustard
I, for one, am sick of "sources" predicting this, that, or the other wonderful new thing out of the Vatican.

This is coming from Catholic News Agency ... a serious source. Besides, if nothing else, we have all witnessed Pope Benedict XVI in action. He is committed to restoring 'reverence' in the Latin Church, albeit through the restoration of the TLM or, in this case, liturgical music. If you are going to voice any concerns, please direct them towards those bishops who wish to maintain the NO status quo.

24 posted on 11/06/2006 4:17:22 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: NYer

Gregorian=beautiful music The Pope is one smart man.


25 posted on 11/06/2006 4:19:29 PM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: GMMAC
The Holy Father could simply ban all 20th century compositions by Jesuits and he'd likely have the battle considerably more than half won.

ROFL!!! Suggest that to the USCCB and see what it nets you.

26 posted on 11/06/2006 4:21:46 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: diamond6; redhead; Pyro7480; ArrogantBustard; Jaded; irishjuggler; sitetest; voiceinthewind; ...
As a Catholic, I can not STAND IT when songs are being sung during the reception of the Holy Eucharist.

You have my total sympathy! I used to feel the same way until I arrived at a Maronite Catholic Church. Since the entire liturgy is chanted back and forth between the celebrant and the congregation, I couldn't imagine what was in store for Communion. Their communion hymns are very limited. That Sunday, the one they sang moved me to tears.

O Bread of Life

O Bread of Life, O Food of Souls, God's joy unsealed,
the Son of God now Son of Man, God's love revealed;
the angels stand before Your face with awe and fear;
how then shall we poor sinful men dare draw so near?

The ocean depthys of God's great love became a flood
the night He gave His precious food, His Flesh and Blood;
our bodies take, our souls receive this awesome Lord;
O Mystery that shows how God should be adored!

For mercy, come with rev'rent love, O penitent;
to God who gives and given is, in Sacrament;
my hope, my grace, my happiness,
God's only Son, receiving You is promise of salvation won.

I have bumped freeper 'redhead' who attends a Byzantine Catholic Church. Just curious, red, what is the practice in your parish for communion hymns?

27 posted on 11/06/2006 4:40:29 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: NYer

BTTT!

What was the title of the other thread about this and I will link it!


28 posted on 11/06/2006 4:42:35 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

Dear NYer,

Please don't ping me.

Thanks,


sitetest


29 posted on 11/06/2006 4:43:33 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer

The Holy Father could ban the USCCB as well while he's at it!


30 posted on 11/06/2006 4:54:04 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: All
Never mind! I found them!

SYNOD OF BISHOPS - 10OCT05 - Participation of the Laity (with music)

Making Music at St. Mary Major; the Becket Battle

St. Louis Jesuits: 'I don't think we're rebels at all' (liturgical music)

Next Stop On the Liturgy Train.... (Music!)

Pope Against Pop Music In Mass

A Change of Tune in the Vatican (shift taking place in liturgical music)

The "Gathering of Witnesses" (recap Monday's BCL Subcommittee on Liturgy and Music)

What does the Church Really Say about Music in Mass?

Bad Music is Destroying the Church

Vatican experts say Pope may propose reform of liturgical music in coming weeks

31 posted on 11/06/2006 4:59:34 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tax-chick

Ah yes, I recall that this was an old Roman Catholic chant. Was it from the Tridentine or Gallican liturgy?


32 posted on 11/06/2006 5:04:17 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Malacoda
Oh, thank goodness. If I had to sit through another version of "Our God is an Awesome God,"

Many songs are fine for the campfire but give me 'Ave Verum Corpus' at Mass any day.

33 posted on 11/06/2006 5:06:33 PM PST by pbear8 (Pray and vote. Vote and pray.)
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To: Huber

*snicker*

My vote would be for a restoration of a single liturgy ... in Spanish. Patrick would prefer Greek. We're getting him Greek alphabet blocks for Christmas.


34 posted on 11/06/2006 5:13:51 PM PST by Tax-chick ("If we have no fear, Pentecost comes again." ~ Bishop William Curlin)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"I, for one, am sick of "sources" predicting this, that, or the other wonderful new thing out of the Vatican."

Sacred music is not exactly a "wonderful new thing". It is in fact an ancient thing that the Vatican desires to restore, not introduce.

35 posted on 11/06/2006 6:17:21 PM PST by TheCrusader
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To: NYer

I'd love to see the look on Chaput's face when the ban on guitars and bongos at his 6:30 PM Sunday evening Mass is implemented.


36 posted on 11/06/2006 7:29:19 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: NYer
He's going Anglican.

...Music wise, that is.

37 posted on 11/06/2006 7:58:23 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Jaded

The "Latin" Mass has never been removed so it does not need to be restored. It is said every day all over the world. What is being speculated, is that the Pope may remove the requirement for the bishopric indult. This is nothing new, it's been talked about since his election, due to his own expressed love for the Tridentine Mass and his now-famous comments on the faithful's right to participate in it.

Most American bishops do not grant permission, or do so very sparingly, for priests to say a "Latin" Mass. What people want who like the Latin or Tridentine masses (two different things), is for the bishops not to have such extensive power to prevent priests from offering these masses at their discretion, provided the Novus Ordo is available. This is the sort of change that can take years to make, it is fraught with ramifications of all kinds.

I personally can see how there needs to be some restriction on the Tridentine Rite, although it should be much more freely said than it is now, but because the Novus Ordo is the current approved rite and is said in every vernacular, I don't see why a priest could say a Mass in Latin at his own discretion.

After all, he can dedide to offer Mass in Spanish, Vietnamese, whatever, without authorization from the bishop, so why not the language of the Church? Overall, I don't believe Latin is the big problem, it's the American bishops opposition (or as my bishop recently put it, "discomfort") with the Tridentine Rite.


38 posted on 11/06/2006 9:50:47 PM PST by baa39 (Quid hoc ad aeternitatem?)
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To: NYer

"On November 19, as part of the year of Mozart—one of Pope’s favorite composers—Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, Archbishop of Vienna, will preside at a Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica, in which the famous Philharmonic Orchestra of Vienna will present Mozart’s Mass of Coronation."

This will be sheer celestial ecstasy! Wish I could be there, the history, the music, the setting...one step from Heaven.


39 posted on 11/06/2006 9:53:01 PM PST by baa39 (Quid hoc ad aeternitatem?)
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To: pbear8
Many songs are fine for the campfire but give me 'Ave Verum Corpus'...

OK here ya go:

Ave Verum Corpus

My heart bursts with joy and anticipation when I hear this, knowing that I am about to assist at the most beautiful thing this side of heaven.

40 posted on 11/06/2006 10:10:42 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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