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Evangelist Admits to 'Sexual Immorality' [Ted Haggard / NAE]
AP, via Earthlink's news page ^ | November 05, 2006 | COLLEEN SLEVIN

Posted on 11/05/2006 7:45:14 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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In his letter, Haggard said "the accusations that have been leveled against me are not all true, but enough of them are true that I have been appropriately and lovingly removed from the ministry."
1 posted on 11/05/2006 7:45:16 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

He and Foley should get a room!


2 posted on 11/05/2006 7:48:38 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Alex Murphy

At least he has admitted to his sin, and has asked forgiveness. I am not sure we should all be included, as we are not who he has deceived, but I pray that his family is given comfort in this. They are the victims here. I had never heard of this man before this, and I will not cast a stone.


3 posted on 11/05/2006 7:48:51 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: Alex Murphy

The letters from him and his wife are available for reference in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1732899/posts


4 posted on 11/05/2006 7:50:07 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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wow..at the risk of being called stupid.."WHO THE HELL IS TED HAGGARD?"..I thought I was pretty much up to date on politics..then I watched msm tell me that this loser was a major force in the Bush White House..news to me..


5 posted on 11/05/2006 8:00:13 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: KoRn

...maybe the can rent a room from Jimmy Swaggert


6 posted on 11/05/2006 8:29:27 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: BerniesFriend

Ted Haggard is the Senior Pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado....and more importantly, the President of the National Association of Evangelicals......bad news.....


7 posted on 11/05/2006 8:32:11 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: BerniesFriend
.."WHO THE HELL IS TED HAGGARD?"..I thought I was pretty much up
to date on politics..then I watched msm tell me that this loser
was a major force in the Bush White House


Don't beat up on yourself too much.
Only because I made an impulse buy of a Time magazine copy with
a cover story of "America's Top 25 Evangelicals"...
did I know who Ted Haggard was before his downfall.

I listened to a lot of Christian talk and conservative talk radio
in Los Angeles (1995-2005) and if I heard his name mentioned, it
hadn't registered with me.
8 posted on 11/05/2006 8:33:57 PM PST by VOA
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To: Alex Murphy

My prayers for him, his family, and his congregation.


9 posted on 11/05/2006 8:48:32 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: BerniesFriend
.then I watched msm tell me that this loser was a major force in the Bush White House..news to me..

You would think if that were true we would know who this guy is. I hadn't heard of him either. Seems a political ploy to connect him to Bush. My guess is the guy who ratted him out had a nudge to do so. Not that I am defending Haggard, I am not.

10 posted on 11/05/2006 8:49:23 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: Alex Murphy

How many times must this be posted?


11 posted on 11/05/2006 8:50:40 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
How many times must this be posted?

It's the first time I've posted it, and the first time it's appeared in the Religion Forum.

You might be confusing this with a similarly-worded title that I posted last week, pre-Haggard's-firing: Evangelical pastor confesses to 'some' accusations [Ted Haggard / NAE]

12 posted on 11/05/2006 9:03:10 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: BerniesFriend
This preacher was NOT a "major force" in the White House even though the Christian movement has always had some cachet in administrations since the founding of the Republic (thank God).

Protestant as well as Jewish, Muslim, Catholic and other religions and denominations are routinely invited to the White House under all administrations for conferences, consultations, prayer breakfasts and the like. This does NOT mean the leader or pastor of any church or federation of religious bodies is a "major force" over any other leaders.

Ostensibly, Billy Graham was a consistent presence at the private side of many presidents from both parties. Whether or not he was a "MAJOR force" in the politics of the White House during the past decades is open to anyone's interpretation.

Leni

13 posted on 11/05/2006 9:04:02 PM PST by MinuteGal (Florida Freepers, keep up with FL politics & freeps on our state forum. To access it, freepmail me.)
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To: Mamzelle
First time I've heard of the letters and him admitting to "sexual immorality" as opposed to only getting a massage and buying meth.

He couldn't have been using meth for too long of a time though. Otherwise he wouldn't have that plasticoid, too perfect look about him that all televangelists seem to have.

14 posted on 11/05/2006 9:17:04 PM PST by AtomicBuffaloWings (Still not hot enough, A few of my taste buds are still alive.)
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Why are we Christians surprised when we learn that our ministers and our leaders are merely fallible men? That they just like us and have given in to temptation? That they just like us, do also sin?

I would think that those in higher positions and those which do much to expand His kingdom, must face greater temptations than I could imagine. For Satan can easily afford to ignore those who count for little or nothing.

I pray for Ted Haggard, his family and congregation. That their faith will be strengthened by this, that their love will be deepened by this and that they find the hidden opportunity in this, which will bring God glory and expanded His kingdom.

15 posted on 11/05/2006 10:03:56 PM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: BerniesFriend
To help answer the question: "Who the hell is Ted Haggard", this article is one that I read on a plane in May 2005 in Harper's magazine (know thine enemy) called "Soldiers of Christ". At the time I thought Pastor Ted's approach to the issue of homosexuality was a bit suspect, and recent events have confirmed those suspicions.

"...Pastor Ted soon began upsetting the devil's plans. He staked out gay bars, inviting men to come to his church;..."
16 posted on 11/05/2006 10:19:30 PM PST by jomama717
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The changing story ...

" ...has participated in conference calls with White House staffers ..."

Earlier, it was "he talks to President Bush once a week," accompanied by video of Haggard with Pres. Bush in front of an airplane, implying they were traveling together.


17 posted on 11/05/2006 10:51:32 PM PST by Rte66
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To: ladyinred; Alex Murphy

I agree with your view lady. This must be terribly hard on his wife and children but God will uses it to His glory. We are all sinners and capable of the worst sins unless we cling to His hand daily.

I remember Tammy and Jim Bakker. Tammy fell away because of the scandel while Jim repented and started a successful prison ministry that saw many people added to the kingdom. The tares fall away. Christians are drawn closer.

Lead us not into temptation.


18 posted on 11/06/2006 1:49:58 AM PST by HarleyD (Mat 19:11 But He said to them, Not all receive this word, except those to whom it is given.)
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To: Between the Lines
re: Why are we Christians surprised when we learn that our ministers and our leaders are merely fallible men?)))

Christians are not suprised. The secular left seems to think we should be. I don't know what the left hoped to gain out of hyping this--are conservatives supposed to say, "I'm so ashamed. I guess I'll just have to vote for Democrats."--?

19 posted on 11/06/2006 4:59:13 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Between the Lines
Well said.

No one cares about my sin. I'm just a peon.
20 posted on 11/06/2006 5:07:26 AM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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