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I recently heard that alcohol abuse is higher among Baptists, Wesleyan and fundamentalists than among Presbyterians and Episcopalians. Wonder if that can be because we teach Wine is a gift not to be abused, while others teach wine is the devil's drink? (looking for citation)

2 posted on 11/05/2006 7:03:08 AM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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I recently heard that alcohol abuse is higher among Baptists, Wesleyan and fundamentalists than among Presbyterians and Episcopalians.

Would you have a cite for that proposition?

If not, then where did you hear it?

12 posted on 11/05/2006 8:17:00 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Gamecock
I recently heard that alcohol abuse is higher among Baptists, Wesleyan and fundamentalists than among Presbyterians and Episcopalians. Wonder if that can be because we teach Wine is a gift not to be abused, while others teach wine is the devil's drink?

Well, if you can find an evil magic voodoo juice to blame your behavior on, it's an easy way to avoid the onerous task of taking responsibility for your actions. The sin that boozing covers up for is irresponsibility ... a REALLY hard character flaw to deal with.

59 posted on 11/05/2006 11:01:46 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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Michael Horton cited that fact in his book Putting Amazing Back Into Grace. It's the forbidden fruit effect: make something readily available and people are less likely to abuse it.
109 posted on 11/05/2006 1:17:35 PM PST by Lexinom (www.VoteYesForLife.com -- Pray.)
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To: Gamecock
This one's for you, GC!

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CC&E

110 posted on 11/05/2006 1:17:55 PM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (So many Stephen Wright jokes, so little time!)
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