A Sober Assessment of Reformational Drinking

Modern Reformation ^ | April 2000 | Jim West

[jude24]

For all we know "stong drink" may have been coffee or herbal tea.

Not based on the semantic domain of the phrase. "Strong drink" is usually referring to alcoholic - though not distilled - drinks.

[Gamecock]

He admitted drinking wine. Are you calling him a liar?

[jude24]

What bars have you been drinking in?

The one's I've been in, the hostess and bartenders are usually nursing drinks all night.

[P-Marlowe]

"Strong drink" is usually referring to alcoholic - though not distilled - drinks.

There were no distilled drinks back then. So what would a "strong drink" be? Did they have other alcoholic drinks other than wine and beer? Wine is a stronger drink than beer, so check your history and then tell me what "strong drink" is.

I suggest it is probably some kind of fruit wine made with added sugars (kinda like brandy). It certainly wasn't anything like tequila, or gin or vodka.

[P-Marlowe]

The one's I've been in, the hostess and bartenders are usually nursing drinks all night.

Sounds like a strip joint.

[Gamecock]

Sounds like a strip joint.

What do you know about such?

[jude24]

Sounds like a strip joint.

You damn well better have evidence to back that allegation up. Never been in one in my life.

[P-Marlowe]

You damn well better have evidence to back that allegation up. Never been in one in my life.

OK, then it sounds like a biker bar.

[jude24]

OK, then it sounds like a biker bar.

Better. But, the answer is, as you probably know, most law school functions seem to involve alcohol. Sometimes its unavoidable that I have to go to a bar. When I go, I limit myself to no more than one drink an hour - enough that I can still drive.

[ConservativeMind]

He was also accused of being a glutton in the same sentence, but since we know Christ never sinned, he never committed gluttony. Thus, he was never a drunkard.

[jude24]

He was also accused of being a glutton in the same sentence, but since we know Christ never sinned, he never committed gluttony. Thus, he was never a drunkard.

True - but he was accused of drunkenness and gluttony because he came eating and drinking.

[Gamecock]

But he did admit drinking now, didn't he?

[Gamecock]

I'm suprised you are still on the Internet, considering how evil it is and all.....

[P-Marlowe]

But, the answer is, as you probably know, most law school functions seem to involve alcohol.

I don't recall ever going to any law school function that involved alcohol. I don't recall going to any law school function that required my presence in a bar.

What kind of bar would allow their bartender to sample the product while on the job? I've never seen that. The only bars I've been in (usually waiting for a table at the restaurant) would probably fire the bartender immediately if he was caught drinking on the job. Being a bartender is a profession. Professionals do not drink on the job.

[Gamecock]

So now you say He is causing the weaker brother to stumble?

[P-Marlowe]

So now you say He is causing the weaker brother to stumble?

I'm not saying anything. You're the one who suggested that the accusation that he was a drunkard was true. You even suggested that if I didn't believe he was a drunkard, that I didn't believe the scriptures.

Well, was Jesus a drunkard? Or was that a false accusation?

[ConservativeMind]

I have no personal problem with the "one drink" rule.

You were also prescribed it.

It is not wrong for Christians to drink alcohol just as it is not wrong for Christians to have sex or to eat. It is simply a matter of propriety such that there is not a sin or any loss of self-control.

[William Terrell]

14 is enough. I don't see your point.

[TomSmedley]

I recently heard that alcohol abuse is higher among Baptists, Wesleyan and fundamentalists than among Presbyterians and Episcopalians. Wonder if that can be because we teach Wine is a gift not to be abused, while others teach wine is the devil's drink?

Well, if you can find an evil magic voodoo juice to blame your behavior on, it's an easy way to avoid the onerous task of taking responsibility for your actions. The sin that boozing covers up for is irresponsibility ... a REALLY hard character flaw to deal with.

[P-Marlowe]

14 is enough. I don't see your point.

I can't help you, sundance.