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To: Teófilo
for he knew exactly what Scripture said and in this instance, did not allow Protestant theological prejudice to drown what Scripture really said.

I don't know where the scriptures are that say that Mary was a perpetual virgin.

Not being argumentative, I am seriously asking for the verses. Thanks.

6 posted on 09/12/2006 9:11:35 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred

There's no positive statement in Scripture that says that Mary was a perpetual virgin. Then again, there's no positive statement in Scripture saying that she wasn't and that was the point of this post.

Scripture, though normative, is not the sole source of faith, as far as the Catholic Church is concerned. So the absence of any positive statement in favor of Mary's Perpetual Virginity doesn't bother us. The testimony comes from the Deposit of Faith handed down in Tradition, to which Scripture belongs and from which Scripture is rightly interpreted.

-Theo


9 posted on 09/12/2006 9:18:46 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: ladyinred
Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23 are two that mention the Blessed Mother's virginity.

Possibly the Song of Songs by Solomon foretells of Mary

O queenly maiden!, yes, the humble maiden girl is now a Queen, because she is the spouse of the King... your soul is a Queen in Christ!.

Rv 11:19a; 12:1-6a, 10ab is viewed as the Blessed Mother:

“A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet”

Islam also believes in the Virgin Mary and their symbol is the crescent moon. The same moon that is depicted in Revelation that will be stomped on by the Blessed Mother in time.

The Bible does not state that Mary was a virgin after Jesus' Birth nor states she died as a virgin. The Catholic Church in their Councils declared various truths about the Blessed Mother and her perpetual virginity is part of those truths. These were established from the Church fathers in the 3rd century. It was not until 1200 years later that disputes arose.

I believe that God's Incarnation being perfect in all things would have to have someone who was also perfect in all things to be His mother. That perfection would include her obedience to our Lord in all things pure and dedication to Him from her Conception to Assumption.

God bless.
23 posted on 09/13/2006 6:10:18 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: ladyinred
I don't know where the scriptures are that say that Mary was a perpetual virgin.

If you're looking for a scriptural prooftext that says flatly "Mary was a perpetual virgin," there isn't one.

However, it's odd that, when Gabriel tells Mary she will conceive and bear a son, she says, "How can this be, since I do not know man?" An odd thing for a young woman, engaged to be married, to say!

Of course nobody in Scripture, except Jesus, is said to be a son or daughter of Mary. And there are many examples of the Hebrew usage of "brothers" and "sisters" to mean relatives more distant that true siblings.

30 posted on 09/14/2006 6:20:40 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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