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Vivificat! - A Personal Catholic Blog of News, Commentary, Opinion, and Reflections ^ | 1 September 2006 | Teófilo

Posted on 09/01/2006 12:57:40 PM PDT by Teófilo

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To: Campion

Put another way, if I found a quote (invented or not) in which Hitler claimed to be a pickled herring, that quote alone would not make it so.


41 posted on 09/01/2006 5:58:07 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Campion

That isn't where I read it, but it is perhaps quoted from that, in fact, most likely is. As I stated, I don't think Hitler had any kind of faith unless it was in Satan!


42 posted on 09/01/2006 6:07:50 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: Campion

I went searching for the source of the Hitler quote I had just read. I read so much it is sometimes hard to recall where I read what! The book is Adolf Hitler, John Toland, NY, Doubleday publisher, 1978.


43 posted on 09/01/2006 6:44:50 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: ladyinred

I'm familiar with the book, but don't own a copy. What exactly does it say, and what source does it cite?


44 posted on 09/01/2006 6:48:06 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
HITLER WAS CATHOLIC!

He was an APOSTATE Catholic, or a Satanist.

45 posted on 09/01/2006 6:48:24 PM PDT by madison10
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests
HITLER WAS CATHOLIC!

Let's play a guessing game.

Who did this fellow Hitler say was "the only human being who has always contradicted me and never obeyed me"?

The only human being who has always contradicted him?

46 posted on 09/01/2006 7:18:34 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Iscool
1) You're quoting an atheist website with an agenda that is not only anti-Catholic but also anti-Protestant.

2) Most of those pictures show a rather tenuous connection between Hitler and the Church. I mean Hitler in a photo with a Church in the background? Come on.
47 posted on 09/01/2006 7:18:57 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ladyinred
I did just read a quote from Hitler as an adult and in charge where he stated he was a Catholic and always would be. I will try to find it and post it. Of course, I don't believe he was a believer in God in the least.

I think we're on the same page, but remember this about Hitler and the Nazis. They were master propagandists.
48 posted on 09/01/2006 7:20:49 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

We are on the same page. Absolutely.


49 posted on 09/01/2006 7:34:33 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: siunevada

Pope Pius the XII


50 posted on 09/01/2006 7:38:26 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: wea

Wow, that is a looney site!


51 posted on 09/01/2006 7:50:51 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Teófilo

That's cool by me.


52 posted on 09/01/2006 7:54:31 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NoFoxholeAthiests

You were warned not to overstate your case, make false or hateful claims. You ignored my warning. You are gone.


53 posted on 09/01/2006 8:35:03 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Campion
You're citing an atheist website against fellow Christians?!?

No...I'm not against anyone on this issue...I didn't check the site over...I just looked at the pictures and read the captions...I don't know if Hitler was a Catholic or not...

I've read pieces where Hitler supposedly stated that he'd be a Catholic til he died...There just seems to be two sides to this issue...I'm curious which one is correct...

54 posted on 09/01/2006 9:46:49 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Campion
Be careful, sir, that in your very obvious hatred of Catholicism and Catholics

I don't hate any Catholics...I have some very close friends who are Catholic...I do obviously, disagree with the Catholic religion...

55 posted on 09/01/2006 9:49:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Calumny

NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. cal·um·nies

1. A false statement maliciously made to injure another's reputation.

2. The utterance of maliciously false statements; slander.

ETYMOLOGY: Middle English calumnie, from Old French calomnie, from Latin calumnia, from calv, to deceive.

http://www.bartelby.com/61/40/C0044000.html

56 posted on 09/01/2006 10:28:35 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal
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To: Iscool; Campion
I've read pieces where Hitler supposedly stated that he'd be a Catholic til he died...There just seems to be two sides to this issue...I'm curious which one is correct...

You might find this interesting...

Who Voted for the Nazis?

"The Nazis won a higher share of the vote in Protestant, rather than Catholic, areas. In July 1932 the Nazi share of the vote was indeed twice as high in Protestant areas as in Catholic."

57 posted on 09/01/2006 10:46:48 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Iscool
I don't hate any Catholics

Color me ... skeptical ...

I have some very close friends who are Catholic

I think we've heard that line before.

58 posted on 09/01/2006 10:51:26 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Iscool
No...I'm not against anyone on this issue...I didn't check the site over...I just looked at the pictures and read the captions...I don't know if Hitler was a Catholic or not

Okay. Maybe you ought to exercise some caution about posting inflammatory links? You're familiar with virtues like charity and forbearance, hmm?

I've read pieces where Hitler supposedly stated that he'd be a Catholic til he died

What Hitler said and what he did were two entirely different things. If he was a "Catholic" he was a Catholic who (a) didn't practice his faith at all from age 16 or so on; (b) had a shack-up lover for years; (c) eventually married her in a civil ceremony; (d) promoted a pagan, anti-Christian ideology; (e) plotted, at one point, to arrest and imprison the Pope; (f) was a mass murderer; and (g) was a mass murderer whose murders included the murders of hundreds of Catholic priests and religious, and millions of Catholic laymen and laywomen.

So Hitler said he was a Catholic? If Satan announced that he was a fundamental Baptist, would that make Baptists demonic, or would it simply reflect the fact that Satan is a liar?

59 posted on 09/01/2006 10:58:56 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Teófilo

And it is growing faster than any other religion!!


60 posted on 09/01/2006 11:26:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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