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Rockford, Illinois Bishop Says Dem’s “a clear and present danger” to US survival as a nation”
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/16/06 | Hilary White

Posted on 08/16/2006 5:00:49 PM PDT by wagglebee

ROCKFORD, August 16, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Abortion, buggery, contraception, divorce, euthanasia, radical feminism, genetic experimentation and mutilation, are the seven “sacraments” of “one” US political party says the Bishop of the Catholic diocese of Rockford Illinois. 

While stopping short of telling his flock how to vote, and without naming the Democrats by name, Bishop Thomas George Doran wrote in a column in the local diocesan newspaper that these “unholy sacraments of our secular culture are the seeds of the destruction of our nation.” He said that the continuance in office of those espousing them represent a “clear and present danger” to the survival of the US as a nation. 

Bishop Doran, leader of the Rockford diocese's 418,891 Catholics exhorts voters to “think for yourself” and ask, “what nation that kills its young, perverts marriage, prevents new life, and destroys the family, kills those deemed useless, makes the war of the sexes into a real war, and manipulates the genetic basis of human nature, can long endure?”

He writes that while looking “askance” at the German people for their historical role in the deaths of 50 million people during the Nazi period, we in North America have blinded ourselves to the deaths of 40 million of unborn citizens since 1973. “No doubt,” he says, “we shall soon outstrip the Nazis in doing human beings to death.” 

He describes a slippery slope that begins with toleration of the killing of “the tiniest innocents among us,” and leads to habituation to violence in other forms. “we have allowed these barbaric practices to corrupt our laws, our medical practice, and even our ordinary lives.” 

He lists toleration for sexual perversions, “widespread contraception, easy access to “no fault” divorce, the killing of the elderly, radical feminism, embryonic stem cell research” as things that “defile and debase our human nature and our human destiny.”

Read Bishop Doran’s column:

http://www.rockforddiocese.org/observer/observer.asp

To contact Bishop Doran:
555 Colman Center Drive
P.O. Box 7044
Rockford, IL 61125
Telephone: (815) 399-4300
FAX: (815) 399-5266



TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; democrats; embryonicstemcells; euthanasia; godless; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; moralabsolutes; secularism; thomasgeorgedoran
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To: Non-Sequitur
Lincolnism: the usual gang of leftist prescriptions and tactics to "improve society" such as federal income taxation then blatantly unconstitutional, the draft likewise, goody-twoshoesism satisfying New England Unitarian moonbats, totally ignoring virtually all constitutional restrictions on central government power, smashing the presses of the anti-civil war New York Daily News and jailing its editor, naval bombardment of the Five Points neighborhood of New York City against the Irish-American draft riots, suspension of the right to obtain writs of habeas corpus in peaceful portions of the US, expelling a sitting Congressman from the states remaining in the Union, gross violations of international law such as blockading ports in the CSA while claiming that the CSA could not leave the Union, seizing CSA Ambassadors Slidell and Mason (?) from the British ship Trent in international waters (which even Lincoln repudiated), illegitimately and unconstitutionally preventing perfectly legal secession by force of arms, depriving people of life, liberty and property without due process of law in violation of Amendment V, tolerating Sherman's barbarian March to the Sea, etc. Those would be a few examples.

If Lincoln were alive today, he would be a McGovern Demonrat. If Jeff Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, J.E.B. Stuart, Longstreet, Judah P. Benjamin, and the other gentlemen of the South were alive today, they would be Republicans. Lincoln was a radical whose anti-Mexican War rhetoric was ripped off by McGoo without attribution (This chamber stands knee deep in blood, blah, blah, blah...). The Southerners were gentlemen. Few histories or biographies lionize the North and with many very good reasons.

The best thing about Lincoln was the last (Father Abraham) year of his life when the once rabidly anti-Mexican War one-term congressman finally choked on the gore he had perpetrated. By the time he was shot, he was shot for his virtues and not for his sins at the demand of corrupt cabinet officers like Stanton for signaling that there would be no "Reconstruction" and therefore no grand graft opportunity.

141 posted on 08/17/2006 5:47:34 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

Excellent point.

Thanks.


142 posted on 08/17/2006 6:11:27 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Perhaps it is time to shed that tax exempt status.

Cry havoc and all that.


143 posted on 08/17/2006 6:52:42 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: BlackElk
Just got back from church (have to work the weekend, and my church has a Thursday service for those who work odd shifts) and was thinking about contraception in the time before the service.

In many ways, what has destroyed the West, and much of Western Christianity, has been that that we have decided it is better to kill our children than to raise them. We have decided that not having a future generation is easier and more responsible than to have one.

While the LCMS is pretty silent about contraception that is non abortifacient, some pastors have already began to speak out against small families. Mainly because there are more Christians now in Africa and Asia than in all of the West combined. It might be to late to save more than a remnant in the West though.
144 posted on 08/17/2006 6:58:10 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: BlackElk

Most amusing.


145 posted on 08/17/2006 7:08:31 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: the invisib1e hand
And you think it's about protecting 501c3 status (which probably didn't exist 40+ years ago) and couldn't possibly be a result of an exercise of propriety?

Actually, if someone is widely known to engage in a type of behavior and one is trying to make it clear that the person's behavior is bad, it's often best to condemn the behavior without mention who's doing it. Doing that makes clear that the condemnation is against the behavior, rather than the person. Further, it makes it much harder for the person engaging in the behavior to weasel out of the accusation.

I am reminded of an ad that spoke of IIRC "greedy [anti-gun] mayors filing frivolous lawsuits", without mentioning any names. Funny how even though the ad didn't accuse anyone in particular, some mayors thought it was unfairly targeting them.

146 posted on 08/17/2006 9:14:45 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: redgolum
While the LCMS is pretty silent about contraception that is non abortifacient, some pastors have already began to speak out against small families. Mainly because there are more Christians now in Africa and Asia than in all of the West combined. It might be to late to save more than a remnant in the West though.

I think the issues need to be put more in terms of being pro-family than anti-contraception. A couple who refrains from sex to avoid having kids isn't IMHO more virtuous than one who decides to keep having sex (to the extent possible) despite having lots of kids, without needing to keep having more. And it should perhaps best be asked as a question: who will be the next generation?

147 posted on 08/17/2006 9:20:13 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: pissant; Salvation

Two other "good" bishops worth watching: Berskowitz in Nebraska, Vasa in Baker Diocese (eastern Oregon)


148 posted on 08/17/2006 9:44:46 PM PDT by baa39 (Quid hoc ad aeternitatem?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

And most true.


149 posted on 08/17/2006 9:54:28 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: redgolum
Your faith and mine have us saying the Lord's Prayer in which we pray that His will be done. Having faith in the Lord necessarily implies trust in His judgment. May your insight spread among yours and mine. May sloth, self-centeredness and materialism be conquered among us before it is too late. May God bless those with the moral courage to have the children that God wants to send to them, to bring those children up in reliance upon the Lord and worry less about whether Junior can afford Harvard or his parents can enjoy driving luxury cars and swank vacations than they do about procreation in cooperation with God as one of His prime purposes in creating sacramental marriage.
150 posted on 08/17/2006 10:08:06 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: supercat; redgolum; Tax-chick
Supercat: Maybe it is more virtuous to concentrate on sharing the love that led to marriage without either "natural family planning" (save for gravest reasons) OR all of the infernal artificial contraceptives from pills (probably abortifacient) to IUDs (certainly abortfacient) to diaphragms, foams and all the rest of the trash that take our attention off of the loving and generous exchange that is conjugal love.

No one makes you have more kids than you are willing to have. Why should you be concerned that others see moral obligations to be open to procreation????

151 posted on 08/17/2006 10:15:00 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: baa39

Bishop Bruskewitz of Lincoln, Nebraska, and also Archbishop Raymond Burke of St. Louis and Bishop Thomas Olmsted of Phoenix, Arizona and Bishop Yanta of Amarillo, Texas, amng others.


152 posted on 08/17/2006 10:19:40 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
It would not be wise for Cardinal McPhony to pick a fight with Bishop Doran who is also one of only seven members of the Church's supreme court: The Signatura which has jurisdiction over McPhony, over the Archdiocese of Los Angeles and over every other Catholic.

Shows how much I know about church heirarchy. I have never heard of the Signatura before. What is it?? Is it a part of the Roman Curia?? I always thought the Congregation of Doctrine and Faith was the judgement/enforcement arm of the Church. Where does the Signatura fit in?? Whatever it is, I am glad to see a Conservative Bishop like Bishop Doran sitting on it, instead of someone like Mahoney!!
153 posted on 08/17/2006 10:23:55 PM PDT by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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To: BlackElk
And most true.

Hardly. But very one sided, I'll grant you that. All you condemn Lincoln for was also done by Davis, and much worse was done by Davis as well. If anything Davis should be compared with Clinton and Carter and other memorable southern presidents.

154 posted on 08/18/2006 3:39:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
a. What was not true? Specifics, please!

b. Lincoln was not fit to clean Bobby Lee's latrine much less to steal his home. Or Stonewall Jackson's latrine for that matter.

c. Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson both opposed secession and favored continued "union" until the Commonwealth of Virginia was invaded.

155 posted on 08/18/2006 6:47:26 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Also, like my bishop, I have VERY one-sided views on the Islamofascisti and for the same reason: There is only one respectable side in each of these controversies: The invaded Confederacy in 1861-1865 (the occupied Southland thereafter) and Western Civilization in the current unpleasantness.

If the early Republicans had chosen Seward instead of Lincoln, they would have been much wiser and there might well have been no invasion and no war.

BTW, as one example, pray tell ONE thing that Jeff Davis (admittedly a failed executive but not an enemy of HIS country such as Clinton and Carter) did that begins to resemble much less approach Sherman's "March to the Sea" the systematic waging of war against women, children, elderly and cripples while their men were fighting the tyranny. Do you deny that Sherman's purpose was to starve the South into submission and to otherwise do damage for its own sake by burning barns, homes and even libraries and looting anything valuable and transportable????

156 posted on 08/18/2006 6:58:38 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
a. What was not true? Specifics, please!

Where to begin? Income tax and the draft? Neither was unconstitutional when enacted, both were also enacted by Jefferson Davis. Suppression of the press? Wildly exaggerated by southron supporters and also done by Davis. Naval bombardment of Five Points? I love this one! How can I compete with you when your historical source is Gangs of New York? I'll bet you think all Five Point hookers look like Cameron Diaz, too. Suspension of the writ of habeas corpus in peaceful parts of the U.S.? Not found unconstitutional until 1865 and also done by Davis. Expelling a sitting congressman? Valandigham was not a sitting congressman, and Lincoln merely let him go where he would be more at home. Took the Davis government all of a few weeks to ship him off to Canada. Gross violations of international laws? I'd like to know which international laws exactly were being violated. Seizing Mason and Slidell? In the first place they were not ambassadors, certainly not viewed as such by any country in the world. In the second place their seizure was done without orders and the two men sent on their way. On Lincoln's orders. Legal secession? On the contrary it was illegal, as the Supreme Court ruled in 1869. And on and on and on.

But the funniest by far was suggesting that Jefferson Davis would be a Republican. Since Davis was first appointed and then 'elected' by running unopposed, implemented conscription, implemented an income tax and then tried to raise it to almost confiscatory levels, seized private property in the form of slave labor without compensation "for the war effort", forced private shipping firms to reserve large parts of their cargo for the government without compensation "for the war effort", placed a levy on agricultural produce without compensation "for the war effort", nationalized industries like salt and liquor and textile, declared martial law in sections of the country hundreds of miles away from the fighting, jailed opponents without trial, ignored his own constitution by refusing to implement the supreme court it required and by implementing a protective tariff, and launched a brutal and ultimately destructive war without consent of congress, then I think that Davis bears a much closer resemblance to other Southern presidents like Carter and Clinton and Johnson rather than Republican presidents like Reagan and Roosevelt and Lincoln.

Lincoln was not fit to clean Bobby Lee's latrine much less to steal his home. Or Stonewall Jackson's latrine for that matter.

Matter of opinion.

Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson both opposed secession and favored continued "union" until the Commonwealth of Virginia was invaded.

When was the invasion of Virgina?

157 posted on 08/18/2006 7:07:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Zetman
The Signatura is the Supreme Court of the Roman Catholic Church. I do not believe that it is at all part of the Curia which consists of executive offices with specific jobs. While it is true that most doctrinal matters would be handled by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (aka the Holy Office and previously popularly known as the Inquisition) that agency is curial and executive.

The Signatura decides other matters in which doctrine may play a role such as violations of Canon Law by bishops in their disciplining of those in their jurisdiction.

Canon Law is the law of the Church which binds the faithful and is applied by the Signatura. It is available in one volume in Latin on the left-hand pages and in English translation on the right-hand pages in about 600 pages for less than $20.

Example: A former Archbishop of Hawaii excommunicated a number of conservative lay folks in his archdiocese when they publicly charged him with keeping a young homosexual lover in San Francisco. The announced excuse for the excommunication was their attendance at schismatic Masses. They appealed the excommunications and the archbishop's action was overturned definitively (I believe by the Signatura). Soon enough, Hawaii had a new archbishop to clean up the messes created by his corrupt predecessor.

158 posted on 08/18/2006 7:10:16 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
Also, like my bishop, I have VERY one-sided views on the Islamofascisti and for the same reason: There is only one respectable side in each of these controversies: The invaded Confederacy in 1861-1865 (the occupied Southland thereafter) and Western Civilization in the current unpleasantness.

Does the good Bishop feel the way you do about the Southern rebellion? Then why aren't you both showing your support by living in the occupied Southland? If not part of the occupied then aren't you by definition an occupier?

If the early Republicans had chosen Seward instead of Lincoln, they would have been much wiser and there might well have been no invasion and no war.

And you would still not be living in your confederate nirvana it seems. I would also point out that if the Davis regime had not fired on Sumter there might have been no war either.

Do you deny that Sherman's purpose was to starve the South into submission and to otherwise do damage for its own sake by burning barns, homes and even libraries and looting anything valuable and transportable????

I would have a harder time denying it if there was any evidence of the widespread starvation you talk of, and of the libraries and what not you say were destroyed wholesale, or of cities leveled and ares desolated.

159 posted on 08/18/2006 7:18:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: murphE

He'll have Bruskewitz, Chaput, and several others in his corner. Probably about 25 altogether in the USA.

But that's TWICE the number of faithful Apostles!!


160 posted on 08/18/2006 12:53:41 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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