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To: BlackElk
Just got back from church (have to work the weekend, and my church has a Thursday service for those who work odd shifts) and was thinking about contraception in the time before the service.

In many ways, what has destroyed the West, and much of Western Christianity, has been that that we have decided it is better to kill our children than to raise them. We have decided that not having a future generation is easier and more responsible than to have one.

While the LCMS is pretty silent about contraception that is non abortifacient, some pastors have already began to speak out against small families. Mainly because there are more Christians now in Africa and Asia than in all of the West combined. It might be to late to save more than a remnant in the West though.
144 posted on 08/17/2006 6:58:10 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
While the LCMS is pretty silent about contraception that is non abortifacient, some pastors have already began to speak out against small families. Mainly because there are more Christians now in Africa and Asia than in all of the West combined. It might be to late to save more than a remnant in the West though.

I think the issues need to be put more in terms of being pro-family than anti-contraception. A couple who refrains from sex to avoid having kids isn't IMHO more virtuous than one who decides to keep having sex (to the extent possible) despite having lots of kids, without needing to keep having more. And it should perhaps best be asked as a question: who will be the next generation?

147 posted on 08/17/2006 9:20:13 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: redgolum
Your faith and mine have us saying the Lord's Prayer in which we pray that His will be done. Having faith in the Lord necessarily implies trust in His judgment. May your insight spread among yours and mine. May sloth, self-centeredness and materialism be conquered among us before it is too late. May God bless those with the moral courage to have the children that God wants to send to them, to bring those children up in reliance upon the Lord and worry less about whether Junior can afford Harvard or his parents can enjoy driving luxury cars and swank vacations than they do about procreation in cooperation with God as one of His prime purposes in creating sacramental marriage.
150 posted on 08/17/2006 10:08:06 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: redgolum

You MoSynod folks are stalwarts!

One of these days, you might even think kindly of the Pope...


167 posted on 08/18/2006 1:08:30 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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