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"Perhaps topcat and scubie missed the main point of my last couple of posts because they haven't responded to them."

Or perhaps it is you who has failed to see the forest for your tree. Here's a small recap of evidences against maintaining the Sabbath...

1)Never commanded by Jesus, even with plenty of opportunities.
2)Never mentioned as a sin in the New Testament when sins are listed (breaking the Sabbath that is)
3)The other 9 commandments are rementioned in the New Testament, but the "Remember the Sabbath" is not.
4)Moral laws are "written on the heart" (Ask any "lost tribesman" what murder is, and then ask what keeping the Sabbath is)
5)Jesus "broke" the Sabbath (only in the Pharisee's eyes because the failed to recognize that Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath). Read John 9:15 and ask yourself why Jesus did not speak against those accusations?
6)No where in the OT or NT is the Sabbath given for all mankind to keep perpetually. Rather it is given to a specific nation at a specific time until Christ. (Galatians 3:19)

Now on the side issue of did Jesus rise on Sunday, you have the Gospels using many different words which clearly show the writers intent is Sunday. (see post #238)

Now your last straw it appears is the "Jonah conundrum." How does that compare to the "third day" promise?

Mat 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mat 17:23 And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mat 20:19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mat 27:64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mar 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mar 10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luk 9:22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luk 18:33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luk 24:7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luk 24:21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Act 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Cr 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Compare that to "three days and nights"

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

So the questions become...

Was the third day the important part or the three days and nights?

If you have to have three days and nights, then you have Jesus rising on the fourth day. (Crucified on Friday before sunset=1 day, Friday night to Saturday morning=1 night, Sat. morning to sunset=2nd day, Saturday night to Sunday morning=2nd night, Sunday morning to Sunday sunset=3rd day, Sunday sunset to Monday sunrise=3rd night, Monday morning=4th day)

Do have a complete answer on why the Jonah conundrum...no. But you are obviously reaching to have "three days and nights" overrule "third day" and Sunday.

Plus you don't even answer the side questions on the international date line problems. To attempt to keep a 7th day is fine, but certainly not required. If you believe it is, I haven't seen convincing evidence as to why.

Sincerely

If you have to have three days and nights, then you have Jesus rising on the fourth day. (Crucified on Friday before sunset=1 day, Friday night to Saturday morning=1 night, Sat. morning to sunset=2nd day, Saturday night to Sunday morning=2nd night, Sunday morning to Sunday sunset=3rd day, Sunday sunset to Monday sunrise=3rd night, Monday morning=4th day)

Because the Roman Church insists that Friday was the day of crucifixion is no reason you should keep that tradition. The Passover Lamb was to be slaughtered on the 14th of the month and most any historical source you go to will agree that the year of birth was anywhere from 3 to 6 A.D.

Indeed, if you look at the year 33 A.D. you will see that the day of preparation from Leviticus 23 (Nisan 14) falls on a Friday. This lines up perfectly with the Roman view of things.....but not scripture. It does not allow the non Sabbath day to purchase and prepare the spices spoken of in [Mark 16:1] and [Luke 23:56] and then.....rest another day for "ANOTHER" Sabbath.

A more appropriate calendar is 30 A.D. where the 14th falls on a Wednesday...a High Sabbath day (Unleavened Bread) on a Thursday...a non Sabbath day to purchase and prepare spices falls on a Friday...and a weekly Sabbath day to observe, according to the commandment, on a Saturday!

Our Lord came out of the tomb shortly before sunset on the Sabbath and to say a Sunday resurrection is scriptural, you have to invent a different timetable.

There's a lot here to deal with, but here we go!!!

1)Never commanded by Jesus, even with plenty of opportunities.

The sabbath commandment was written by Christ at Sinai, with his own finger, before he became incarnate.

2)Never mentioned as a sin in the New Testament when sins are listed (breaking the Sabbath that is)

Sure it is:

1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

The sabbath is part of God's law. Transgressing it is the same as idolatry or taking God's name in vain.

3)The other 9 commandments are rementioned in the New Testament, but the "Remember the Sabbath" is not.

Sure it is:

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

4)Moral laws are "written on the heart" (Ask any "lost tribesman" what murder is, and then ask what keeping the Sabbath is)

Every human alive was born a sinner. There is no moral law written on anyone's heart, except those who have God's holy spirit. The scripture you're referring to is describing this event.

5)Jesus "broke" the Sabbath (only in the Pharisee's eyes because the failed to recognize that Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath). Read John 9:15 and ask yourself why Jesus did not speak against those accusations?

Jesus didn't break the sabbath. It's impossible for him to sin. He did violate manmade, hypocritical rules created and instituted by men, but he never broke the scriptural sabbath.

6)No where in the OT or NT is the Sabbath given for all mankind to keep perpetually. Rather it is given to a specific nation at a specific time until Christ. (Galatians 3:19)

You're right. Only those who worship the one, true God were commanded to keep the sabbath perpetually. In fact, God established a special covenant for this purpose:

Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up the sabbath in response to how long Jesus was in the grave, but I'm going to break this into two posts to separate the issues.

Was the third day the important part or the three days and nights?
If you have to have three days and nights, then you have Jesus rising on the fourth day. (Crucified on Friday before sunset=1 day, Friday night to Saturday morning=1 night, Sat. morning to sunset=2nd day, Saturday night to Sunday morning=2nd night, Sunday morning to Sunday sunset=3rd day, Sunday sunset to Monday sunrise=3rd night, Monday morning=4th day)

Oh, okay I see. Jesus did not die on a Friday. He was crucified and died just before sunset Wednesday. He was placed in the grave at or just before sunset.He was resurrected on the sabbath, just before sunset, three days and three nights later.

The "third day"...day 1 = Thursday, day 2 = Friday, day 3 = Saturday. Saturday was the third day.

Do have a complete answer on why the Jonah conundrum...no. But you are obviously reaching to have "three days and nights" overrule "third day" and Sunday.

There is no conundrum if you simply believe that Jonah was actually in the fish literally three days and three nights and if you believe Christ when he said that was the sign that he was the messiah.

1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.