[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I really don't think the issue is resolved by appeal to Scripture, and is not a primary doctrine (that must be believed for Salvation) but as a Christian I support Israel because the 'promise' to you has not been rescinded. that means all Jews in Israel or otherwise.

NO. You've got the whole thing wrong.

As a Christian, you ARE Israel.

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:... For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. ~~ (Apostle Saint Paul, Romans 9:6 - Galatians 6:15-16)

While I support the modern Secular, Socialist, Christ-Denying "State of Israel" on International Law grounds (anyone has a Right to Self-Defense), the teaching of the Apostle Saint Paul is that the Israel of God is... THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST.

God does not promise blessings to ANYONE for giving "extra-credit kudo points" to a Secular, Socialist State which is predicated upon the Rejection of His Beloved Son.

God never said, "I will reward you if you pledge your total support to a bunch of Christ-rejecting Pharisees who absolutely Hate My only-begotten Son. Yeah, that's really 'My Israel'... sure it is".

If anything, given how much God the Father loves His Son and how much the modern "State of Israel" hates Jesus... you might wanna stay outta the way of His Wrath.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him. (Psalm 2:12, KJV)

Best, OP

[vimto]

Got to give it to you you are clear in what you believe.

To obtain salvation you must be a Christian. But do you not expect to see more Jews saved n Christ as the end times come? Our political arrangement in God's eyes, even the best of them, are all folly.

[bornacatholic]

God never said, "I will reward you if you pledge your total support to a bunch of Christ-rejecting Pharisees who absolutely Hate My only-begotten Son.

* I know you think you speak for God but the Jews, qua Jews, did not all hate His Son. It's in all the Bibles.

And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do

Yours is a God of hate. You are welcome to Hm. And He will judge you as you judge others

[TomSmedley]

Worth repeating!

God never said, "I will reward you if you pledge your total support to a bunch of Christ-rejecting Pharisees who absolutely Hate My only-begotten Son. Yeah, that's really 'My Israel'... sure it is".

If anything, given how much God the Father loves His Son and how much the modern "State of Israel" hates Jesus... you might wanna stay outta the way of His Wrath.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him. (Psalm 2:12, KJV)

[Marysecretary]

The modern church as most of us know it, has little or no power to be anything, but there is a time and I believe it's near, that the TRUE church, Christ's church, will arise and be a great power. We need to get rid of churchianity and begin to depend on Christ and Christ alone and to hear and obey what He's telling us in these times.

[STD]

Thank you for post number 11. I'm trying to answer my CI friends who are fleeing the country for other nations. I love them all, but worry about their salavation. Maybe you could pray for Tomas along with me.