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Priest criticizes ADL for statement regarding Mel Gibson
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/abbott/060731 ^ | July 31, 2006 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 07/31/2006 3:44:06 PM PDT by Diago

Priest criticizes ADL for statement regarding Mel Gibson


Matt C. Abbott
Matt C. Abbott
July 31, 2006


Not surprisingly, the Anti-Defamation League has responded to Mel Gibson's recent DUI arrest.

Readers might remember that the ADL was quite vocal in its criticism of Gibson for his 2004 blockbuster The Passion of the Christ.

Here's what ADL national director Abraham Foxman had to say regarding Gibson's arrest:

Mel Gibson's apology is unremorseful and insufficient. It's not a proper apology because it does not go to the essence of his bigotry and his anti-Semitism.

His tirade finally reveals his true self and shows that his protestations during the debate over his film 'The Passion of the Christ,' that he is such a tolerant, loving person, were a sham. It may well be that the bigotry has been passed from the father to the son. It is unfortunate that it took an excess of booze and an encounter with a police officer to reveal what was really in his heart and mind.

"We would hope that Hollywood now would realize the bigot in their midst and that they will distance themselves from this anti-Semite.

The ADL, in my view, has no moral right to cast stones at Gibson, considering the organization has no problem with abortion-on-demand. In 2000, the ADL issued a press release in which "they cheered the Supreme Court decision barring a partial-birth abortion ban in Nebraska and admitted that the ADL had 'filed an amicus curiae or 'friend of the court' brief which said the Nebraska law unconstitutionally interfered in matters of individual choice,'" according to a story from Catholic World News.

Also from the CWN story:

While the [ADL] claims it is only seeking to identify 'anti-abortion groups that advocate violence,' the group's pro-abortion advocacy and attempts to associate the shooting of abortionists with peaceful pro-life groups such as Human Life International contradicts their reassurances. An ADL press release from October 30, 1998 identified Human Life International among 'anti-abortion extremists' and derided any pro-life group comparing the slaughter of the unborn to the Nazi Holocaust.

I asked Father Tom Euteneuer, president of Human Life International, to respond to Foxman's statement on the Gibson arrest. Father Euteneuer's response is as follows:

Mr. Foxman claims that Mel Gibson did not give a 'proper apology.' Can this man ever be satisfied? Gibson said that he disgraced himself and his family by his behavior and apologized for his anti-Semitic remarks which, by his admission, he spoke in an altered state and does not believe to be true. And that's not enough? According to Catholic principles Mel exhibited all the elements of a proper reconciliation: contrition with a firm purpose of amendment, confession and (he is in the process of doing) penance. The greatest penance is that this all came out in the public forum: Foxman and the ADF should get off his back.

The Catholic League's response to the Gibson arrest is here.

Related link:
http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=725

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To: Diago

Hillary referred to Dick Morris as an "effing jew bas+ard" and Foxman hasn't required her shunning. I guess his ire is reserved for conservatives or catholics.


41 posted on 08/01/2006 8:53:32 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: ArrogantBustard

Dear ArrogantBustard,

Intoxicants affect me differently. I just smile, laugh, and tell pretty girls how pretty they are.

;-)


sitetest


42 posted on 08/01/2006 9:09:14 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Scotswife

Dear Scotswife,

"I noticed in his apology he didn't actually disavow his anti-semitic remarks."

Not specifically, but he did by way of the categorical.


sitetest


43 posted on 08/01/2006 9:10:48 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: bornacatholic

Dear bornacatholic,

"*Anyone? Hey, Spielberg, you specifically slandered Christians, all Christians. I am a Christian and you owe me an apology."

It'd be enough for me, because of this phrase:

"I am deeply ashamed of everything I said..."

I'd figure that the fellow was so ashamed of some parts of what he said that he could scarcely bring himself to name them by name.

That's not to say it wouldn't be better for him to name them, but that wasn't really the question.


sitetest


44 posted on 08/01/2006 9:14:08 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Your penchant for accepting apolgies and rushing to forgive others really is taking Christianity too far :)


45 posted on 08/01/2006 9:25:17 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic
Dear bornacatholic,

LOL.

It'd be easier to withhold forgiveness if I were as good as the many others who so readily withhold forgiveness.

;-)


sitetest
46 posted on 08/01/2006 9:30:54 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Diago
Not to excuse him, but has anyone thought about the fact that Mel may simply have been talking about the Jews who so unrelentingly accused him of antisemitism in the POTHC? They were purely bigoted then with absolutely no reason.

He must have been stressed out to the max by that attack.
47 posted on 08/01/2006 9:46:40 AM PDT by amihow
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To: bornacatholic

Exactly...and I think what this highlights also is that when you take a good look at these radtrad folks who claim to undertstand Church teaching better than anyone - even the pope - what you see is alot of anger, arrogance, bigotry, and hatred. What you don't see is humility and most of all...love.


48 posted on 08/01/2006 10:29:54 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: sitetest

"Not specifically, but he did by way of the categorical. "

How convenient for him.


49 posted on 08/01/2006 10:31:15 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

Dear Scotswife,

Well, our dialogue is a bit moot now, in that Mr. Gibson has issued a rather more wide-ranging and specific apology.

However, I'll note that the categorical is often used because "to include is to exclude."

If you try to get specific, and you forget something about which to be specific, then folks will think you excluded it on purpose.

This is especially true when thanking folks publicly.

;-)


sitetest


50 posted on 08/01/2006 10:46:20 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
Gibson has permanently damaged himself. An apology is of course required as is trying to make amends.

However, he has forfeited the right to 'the benefit of the doubt". His behavior is not that of a leader or role model. Many consider(ed) him as such. When a pastor fails he should confess, repent and then sit in the back pew and work cleaning up the churchyard. He has lost the right to lead. Saying your sorry and then handing over a bunch of money to some Israeli orphanage or Holocaust memorial( just give him a couple of weeks) is cynical. When a Christian does something this egregious and is truly sorry he removes himself from the postion that he formerly occupied, not withstanding the revolting "support" of his sycophants.
51 posted on 08/01/2006 4:03:23 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Bainbridge

Dear Bainbridge,

Mr. Gibson isn't a pastor or a priest or a minister or even some sort of lay evangelist.

He isn't a leader, or a role model, or anything else like that. I don't know that he's ever held himself out as anything like that.

He's a movie actor. An entertainer. I've enjoyed some of his movies, and just not paid any attention to many others. He's done some credible work, and been well-rewarded for it, remuneratively.

What else is there?

I'm not sure which "benefit of the doubt" you think he's forfeited.


sitetest


52 posted on 08/01/2006 4:12:47 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Scotswife
No it doesn't reveal your true feelings. The person REALLY doesn't want their boss to drop dead. They just said it because they were drunk.
At most this outburst proves how annoying Abe Foxman can be.
53 posted on 08/01/2006 5:30:02 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: bornacatholic
How is that not a good apology?
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
54 posted on 08/01/2006 5:32:37 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: escapefromboston

"No it doesn't reveal your true feelings. The person REALLY doesn't want their boss to drop dead. They just said it because they were drunk.
At most this outburst proves how annoying Abe Foxman can be.A"

come on now...if the person liked their boss they wouldn't make a comment like that.
I never said the person REALLY wanted their boss dead...but such a comment shows the person certainly doesn't like their boss very much.

I agree Abe Foxman is annoying...I mean....Kofi Annan is hurting the jews much more than Mel Gibson ever could.


55 posted on 08/01/2006 8:50:08 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: garbageseeker
 

56 posted on 08/01/2006 9:12:08 PM PDT by Coleus ("God hates moderates, Revelation 3:15-16")
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To: Coleus

Funny.


57 posted on 08/01/2006 9:20:43 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.ā€¯Samuel Clemmens)
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To: Bainbridge
not withstanding the revolting "support" of his sycophants.

Yeah, it kind of reminds me of when Simon Peter stabbed Jesus in the back by putting Him on the pay-no-mind-list on Holy Thursday. If Peter hadn't said those terrible things about Jesus, he might have actually become an important saint or something.

58 posted on 08/02/2006 9:53:32 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

Perhaps this made sense to you. However, I think you better keep your day job.


59 posted on 08/02/2006 11:02:03 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: caseinpoint
Is it the "true person" coming out?

I don't think so. I come from a long line of alcoholics on both sides. Drunkeness and truth really don't go hand in hand.

60 posted on 08/02/2006 12:12:04 PM PDT by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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