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To: wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
***From our perspective we "choose" but from God's perspective it was determined from before we were created.***

I'm not sure what you are saying here: From God's perspective it was determined by whom?

I know many Christians who describe their conversion experience by saying they were drawn and couldn't resist. I think that most free willers are Calvinists until they are taught about free will, and then they start to wonder who choose who.
94 posted on 07/29/2006 12:15:58 PM PDT by Gamecock ("Jesus came to raise the dead. He did not come to teach the teachable." Robert Farrar Capon)
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To: Gamecock

"I'm not sure what you are saying here: From God's perspective it was determined by whom?"
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It was determined by GOD. At the time of conversion (myself included) it seems to the convert that they are in the drivers seat and "choose" to be saved, but in reality it is already determined by GOD. I fall into that camp that was drawn and couldn't resist. It really wasn't until later that I began to recognize this.


97 posted on 07/29/2006 2:05:11 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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