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Ichabod ["the glory has departed" from TEC]
Midwest Conservative Journal ^ | 7/10/2006 | Christopher Johnson

Posted on 07/10/2006 5:45:22 PM PDT by sionnsar

Kate Schori kicks things around with Time and demonstrates that the Spongian takeover of TEC is complete:

What will be your focus as head of the U.S. church? Our focus needs to be on feeding people who go to bed hungry, on providing primary education to girls and boys, on healing people with AIDS, on addressing tuberculosis and malaria, on sustainable development. That ought to be the primary focus.

Translation: we need to become "Christian" Shriners.

The issue of gay bishops has been so divisive. The diocese of Newark, N.J., has named a gay man as one of its candidates for bishop. Is now the time to elect another gay bishop? Dioceses, when they are faithful, call the person who is best suited to lead them. I believe every diocese does the best job it’s capable of in discerning who it is calling to leadership.

Translation: kiss off, rest of the Anglcian world.

Many Anglicans in the developing world say such choices in the U.S. church have hurt their work. That’s been important for the church here to hear. We’ve heard in ways we hadn’t heard before the problematic nature of our decisions. Especially in places where Christians are functioning in the face of Islamic culture and mores, evangelism is a real challenge. [But] these decisions were made because we believe that’s where the Gospel has been calling us. The Episcopal Church in the U.S. has come to a reasonable conclusion and consensus that gay and lesbian Christians are full members of this church and that our ministry to and with gay and lesbian Christians should be part of the fullness of our life

Translation: see above.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, who leads the Anglican Communion, wrote recently that a two-tier Communion may be a solution. What did you read in his message? The pieces that I saw as most important had to do with the complexity of the situation and the length of time that this process will continue. He’s very clear that we’re not going to see an instant solution. He’s also clear about his role: it is to call people to conversation, not to intervene in diocesan or provincial life--which some people have been asking for.

Translation: since I'm an Episcopalian, I saw only what I wanted to see and ignored the rest.

What is your view on intelligent design? I firmly believe that evolution ought to be taught in the schools as the best witness of what modern science has taught us. To try to read the Bible literalistically about such issues disinvites us from using the best of recent scholarship.

Translation: don't worry, I won't get all up in your face about this Bible nonsense.

Is belief in Jesus the only way to get to heaven? We who practice the Christian tradition understand him as our vehicle to the divine. But for us to assume that God could not act in other ways is, I think, to put God in an awfully small box.

Translation: we're probably going to get run from the Christian religion so I've got to start sucking up to the Uni-Uni's

What is your prayer for the church today? That we remember the centrality of our mission is to love each other. That means caring for our neighbors. And it does not mean bickering about fine points of doctrine.

Translation: see "Christian" Shriners comment above.

UPDATE: Patrick(the real one) points out that comparing TEC to the Shriners is an insult.  To the Shriners.  Rebuke accepted.


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1 posted on 07/10/2006 5:45:23 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 07/10/2006 5:46:00 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | NYT:Jihadi Journal)
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To: sionnsar
That we remember the centrality of our mission is to love each other

WRONG - spreading The Gospel - salvation of the lost is the primary mission of the Church

3 posted on 07/10/2006 5:54:10 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: sionnsar
This isn't a religion in the sense that I think of it. It is the democrat party in a Church building at election time. The religion that Ann Coulter wrote about in her new book, Godless.
4 posted on 07/10/2006 5:55:38 PM PDT by ladyinred (The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
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To: sionnsar
We who practice the Christian tradition understand him as our vehicle to the divine.

"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz..."

5 posted on 07/10/2006 6:32:07 PM PDT by Argus
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That we remember the centrality of our mission is to love each other...

But they don't!!!! What do they say about our Serbian Orhtodox Christian brothers and sisters? Or, for that matter, Christians in South Sudan (many of whom are Anglicans), Lebanon, or Iraq? Or for that matter, conservative Anglicans?

Jesus commanded us Christians to love one another, and promised that in doing so, the whole world would know that we are his disciples. Jefforts-Schori and the rest of the revisionist crew take "love one another" out of context, and turn it into a secular, liberal "commandment" to "love the world", and in most cases hate many of our fellow Christians whom it is not politically correct to love or support!!!! WHAT HYPOCRITES!!!!

6 posted on 07/10/2006 8:39:10 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: sionnsar
What will be your focus as head of the U.S. church?

What about:

Speaking the Truth.
Leading people to the Lord.
Discipling new Christians.
Transforming lives.
Prayer.
Deliverence.
Repentence.

You know, the things that Jesus did.

7 posted on 07/11/2006 3:07:26 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (Glad to have ECUSA behind me.....)
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