[vladimir998]

This article is crap. Can anyone here actually provide any evidence, any evidence at all, and by that I mean actual documented cause and effect, that shows pagans entering the Church (which would mean they became Christians!) changed a single Church teaching?

I have heard this claim before, and not surprisingly it always seems to come from Protestants (wishful thinking) or rationalists (hoping against hope) just as with the two "scholars" mentioned in this article. But where's thr proof? Why isn't there a single document anywhere in the world which says something along the lines of, "Ever since we started letting those pagans, gee, they've changed the Church's teachings"?

[Uri’el-2012]

This article is crap. Can anyone here actually provide any evidence, any evidence at all,
and by that I mean actual documented cause and effect, that shows pagans entering the Church
(which would mean they became Christians!) changed a single Church teaching?

I have heard this claim before, and not surprisingly it always seems to come from Protestants
(wishful thinking) or rationalists (hoping against hope) just as with the two "scholars" mentioned
in this article. But where's thr proof? Why isn't there a single document anywhere in the world
which says something along the lines of,
"Ever since we started letting those pagans, gee, they've changed the Church's teachings"?

19 posted on 07/08/2006 10:12:52 AM MDT by vladimir998

The Council of Nicea was summoned, and presided over, by the Emperor Constantine.

Constantine, Pontifex Maximus of the Roman state religion.

He called all the bishops of the eastern and western churches to attend.

The bishop of Rome was invited to attend but he chose not to attend.

One of the titles of the Roman Emperor was Pontifix Maximus,
a title given to the Roman Emperor by the king of Ephesus
who had inherited the title from Babylon

This title goes all the way back to Babylon and the beginnings of the mother-child
cult under Nimrod of Genesis 10 and his wife Sumerimus. Later,
Julius Caesar was elected Pontifex Maximus and when he became Emperor,
he became the supreme civil and religious ruler and head of Rome
politically and religiously with all the power and functions of the Babylonian pontiff.

Here was the magnificent temple of Esculapius, a pagan god
whose idol was in the form of a serpent.
The inhabitants were known as the chief temple keepers of Asia.
When the Babylonian cult of the Magians was driven out of Babylon,
they found a haven in Pergamum.

The title of the Magian high priest of Babylon was "Chief Bridge Builder"
meaning the one who spans the gap between mortals and Satan and his hosts.
In Latin this title was written "Pontifex Maximus,"

Y'shua spoke to the church at Pergamus when he said:

Revelation 2:12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write:
The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this:

Revelation 2:13 'I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is;
and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith
even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one,
who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.

Revelation 2:14 'But I have a few things against you, because you
have there some who hold the teaching of Balaam,
who kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block
before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed
to idols and to commit {acts of} immorality.

Revelation 2:15 'So you also have some who in the same way
hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.

b'shem Y'shua

[kerryusama04]

But where's thr proof?

Is the fact that the image of the Crucifixion actually pre-dates the event proof for you?

Here's the image source

[Diego1618]

Can anyone here actually provide any evidence, any evidence at all, and by that I mean actual documented cause and effect, that shows pagans entering the Church (which would mean they became Christians!) changed a single Church teaching?

This is too easy! Acts 8:9-13. Simon the Sorcerer entered the Church from a Samaritan (Babylonian) background and immediately set out to pervert the teachings of the Apostles. Justin Martyr See Chapter XXVI.

The Samaritans were descended from The Babylonians who had brought their "Mystery Religion" with them when they arrived from Babylon. Notice in verse 34....they are still practicing their Mystery Religion and this was the same religion of Simon Magus. This is one of the reasons Christ warned his disciples to stay out of Samaria [Matthew 10:5] as they were still practicing this same type of religion in the first century.

Of course you will now say that Simon had no influence on the early Church.....and I will chuckle.

[Rhadaghast]

Yes, there is documentation of a pagan teaching changing the tradition of the RCC.

On what day was Jesus born?

The Jewish Christians can determine this definitively to be in our month of March.

Who was born on Decemeber 25th?
Before the Progression of the equinox, 12-25 was the birthday of Tammuz. Ezekiel 8 documents this practice as being in the temple.
Nimrod's Son Tammuz born to the Queen of Heaven. This was a world wide cult of Sun Worship.
When Tammuz died he was remembered by 40 days of his followers denying themselves a pleasure from this life, culminating in the celebration of Tammuz mother's return to Earth as the Goddess of fertility on Easter.
When she demonstrated her divinity by changing a bird in to an egg laying rabbit.

[Cronos]

actually, there is no proof, it's just statements made by those outside of the apostolic churches and the Assyrian church.