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The Rise of a Counterfeit Christianity
The Church Jesus Built ^ | 1997? | Various

Posted on 07/08/2006 6:41:47 AM PDT by DouglasKC

The Rise of a Counterfeit Christianity

"Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name . . . and will deceive many" (Matthew 24:4-5).

Jesus Christ told His apostles to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in His name. Most people who are familiar with the Bible realize those apostles zealously embarked on that mission. Their converts were first called Christians in the city of Antioch (Acts 11:26). Since then, so many people have been born or converted into the hundreds of denominations known collectively as "Christianity" that it is one of the world's most popular and dominant religions.

People assume that all, or at least almost all, who bear the name Christian follow the beliefs, teachings and practices of Jesus Christ. But the Bible tells us that not everyone who accepts the name of Christ is really a Christian.

Jesus predicted that some would claim His name but deny Him by their actions. He said they would "call Me 'Lord, Lord,'" but "not do the things which I say" (Luke 6:46). Christ and His apostles spoke of false prophets, false apostles and false brethren. They revealed that two opposing ostensibly Christian religions would emerge. One—the Church Jesus founded—would be led by God's Spirit and remain faithful to His teachings. The other—guided and influenced by a different spirit—would accept the name of Christ but twist His teachings to create a convincing counterfeit of the true Church of God.

Both would use Christ's name and claim His authority. Both would perform works that would outwardly appear good and right. Both would claim to be following Christ's true teachings. But only one would faithfully represent its founder, Jesus Christ. The other would capture the minds and hearts of humanity by attaching the name of Christ to biblically insupportable religious customs and doctrines that Jesus and His apostles neither practiced nor approved.

The apostles repeatedly warned Jesus' followers to beware of false teachers who would introduce counterfeit-Christian beliefs. Jesus Himself warned: "Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name . . . and will deceive many" (Matthew 24:4-5).

The New Testament presents a concise historical sketch of the roots of these two religions that profess to be Christian—one real, one counterfeit. Christ's apostles described the origin of each and their fundamental characteristics.

We have already examined the apostles' description of the Church Jesus founded. Now let's look at the record they left us of another supposedly Christian religion—one that distorted and corrupted the truth and grew to become far more powerful and influential than the small Church Jesus promised would never die out.

Teaching the traditions of men

Where do most churches get their teachings and practices? Most of their members assume they come from the Bible or from Jesus Christ Himself. But do they? Jesus commanded His apostles to teach others exactly what He had taught—"teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you" (Matthew 28:20, NIV). He condemned the replacing of God's commandments with traditions and human reason. Speaking to the Pharisees, He said, "For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men . . . All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition" (Mark 7:8-9).

Jesus taught that His Church should keep the commandments of God: "If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17). He warned: "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied [preached] in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" (Matthew 7:22-23). He knew that false teachers would arise who would reject the commandments of God for a distorted gospel of no law—lawlessness!

Like Jesus, the apostles consistently taught obedience to God. Peter and the other apostles risked their lives to make it clear that "we ought to obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29). Paul expressed the same commitment he shared with the other apostles—of a life of obedience. "Through him [Christ] and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith" (Romans 1:5, NIV).

Paul later cautioned members of the congregation in Colosse to hold fast to what he had taught them. "As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught . . ." (Colossians 2:6-7).

Following Christ's example, Paul warned the Colossians not to accept traditions as replacements for the commandments of God: "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ" (Colossians 2:8; compare Mark 7:8-9, 13).

Why did Jesus Christ and the apostles sound such urgent warnings to avoid the traditions of men?

Subversion from within the Church

As the apostles strove to establish still more congregations of believers among the nations, a phenomenon arose that eventually produced an alternate and outwardly Christian religion—but one quite different from the Church Jesus and His apostles established.

New and different doctrines were subtly introduced. Some began subverting the Church by challenging and contradicting the teachings of Christ's apostles. Paul warned, "For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain" (Titus 1:10-11).

To counter this trend, Paul instructed fellow elder Titus to carefully consider the background, knowledge and character of anyone being considered for ordination: "Since an overseer is entrusted with God's work, he must be blameless . . . He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it" (verses 7, 9, NIV).

Increasingly, "false apostles" began contradicting and undermining the teachings of the true apostles of Christ. Paul cautioned the church in Rome: "I urge you, brothers and sisters, to keep an eye on those who cause dissensions and offenses, in opposition to the teaching that you have learned; avoid them. For such people do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded. For while your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, I want you to be wise in what is good and guileless in what is evil" (Romans 16:17-19, NRSV).

Competing religious leaders, masquerading as ministers of Christ, began teaching their own false doctrines "in opposition to" Christ's apostles and other of his faithful servants. At first they came predominantly from a Jewish background. But then false teachers emerged from people of other backgrounds within the Church. The subversive doctrines that eventually grew to be the most influential were a blend of pagan and misguided Jewish philosophies synthesized with the mysticism popular at that time.

Simon the Sorcerer was one such false teacher mentioned early in the Scriptures. After his baptism by Philip, Simon attempted to buy the office of apostle from Peter, hoping to obtain the power to grant others the Holy Spirit. Motivated by his greed for power and influence, he faked conversion to appear Christian (Acts 8:9-23). Later historical sources indicate that he blended various elements of paganism and mysticism into a counterfeit-Christian philosophy.

A dangerous trend was established. Soon "false apostles," "false teachers" and "false brethren" abounded.

A counterfeit Christianity was born.

A different gospel gains ground

The impact of distorted teachings devastated the early Church. For example, Christians in the Roman province of Galatia turned en masse from the teachings of the apostle Paul and to a corrupted, cunningly devised but counterfeit gospel promoted by these false apostles.

Paul described the approach they used and the effect the false teachers had on Christians in Galatia: "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ" (Galatians 1:6-7). The brethren in that area were being swept into one of the many sects making up the emerging false Christianity. Paul had to contend with religious strife generated by Jewish and gentile elements in the Galatian congregations.

These cunning pretenders did not reject outright the gospel Paul taught. They simply perverted aspects of it. Then they seduced the Galatian Christians into accepting their gospel—a deadly mixture of truth and error. It contained enough truth to appear righteous and Christian, but it contained sufficient error to prevent any who would accept it from receiving salvation.

Notice Paul's blistering condemnation of that "different" gospel: "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed" (verses 8-9).

A gospel of no law

Jesus warned His apostles this would happen: "Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold" (Matthew 24:11-12). Jesus explained that lawlessness, the key element in the message of the false teachers, would make their ideas appealing and popular. Disregard for God's law would finally become the foundation of a popular and successful counterfeit Christianity.

The false prophets devised their message and doctrines by verbally acknowledging Jesus as "Lord" while refusing to obey Him (Luke 6:46). Jesus Himself warned of their deceitful, cunning approach: "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves" (Matthew 7:15).

Jesus made it clear that teachers of lawlessness, who outwardly appear as innocent sheep performing devoutly religious acts, are not His apostles or servants: "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" (verses 22-23).

God's law: the religious battleground

Controversy over God's law erupted within the Church as soon as the first gentiles (non-Israelites) were converted. Certain Jewish believers wanted to force circumcision and other physical requirements on the gentiles. They demanded that gentile converts be physically circumcised to receive salvation (Acts 15:1).

The apostles refused. They pointed out that even Moses had taught that the circumcision that made one acceptable to God was a matter of the heart (Deuteronomy 30:6; compare with Romans 2:29 and Colossians 2:11-12). Also, God had declared Abraham to be righteous in His sight before he was circumcised (Romans 4:9-12). Therefore, they explained, physical circumcision should not be regarded as a requirement for the gentiles' salvation (Acts 15:2, 5-10). For further proof, Peter noted that God had recently given the Holy Spirit to several gentiles without their being circumcised, demonstrating His will in the matter (verse 8; Acts 11:1-4, 15-18).

The same Jews also demanded that gentiles observe the temple ceremonies and rituals that pointed to the sacrifice of Christ. The apostles insisted that Christ's sacrifice was sufficient for the forgiveness of sins through the grace of God (Hebrews 7:26-27).

The temple sacrifices and rituals were only temporary institutions until the sacrifice of the real "Lamb of God" (John 1:29). The apostles taught that they were no longer required (Acts 15:11; Hebrews 9:1-15) because they were "concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation" (Hebrews 9:10).

But the apostles never regarded God's spiritual laws, summarized by the Ten Commandments, as being in the same category with "fleshly ordinances." They always supported obedience to God's commandments. Paul made this clear: "Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters" (1 Corinthians 7:19). He concluded: "Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law" (Romans 3:31).

Distorted view of God's grace

Just as Jesus had foretold, unscrupulous teachers pounced on the teachings of Paul and the other apostles and twisted their meaning (2 Peter 3:15-16). By distorting the apostles' words, first about grace and then about those "fleshly ordinances" that are no longer necessary, they discovered a way to excuse their unlawful behavior. "For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness [shameful behavior] and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ" (Jude 4).

To them, grace excused sin—the breaking of God's law—by allowing them to disregard scriptural teachings they did not like. They twisted Paul's explanation that we cannot earn salvation with our own "works" into an excuse for making no effort to obey God.

Peter pinpointed their real problem. They "despise authority": "They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries . . ." (2 Peter 2:10). A dominant characteristic of these deceivers was their eagerness to verbally attack and undermine the apostles and elders who were the true shepherds of God's flock.

As a consequence, said Peter, "they have forsaken the right way and gone astray . . ." (verse 15). "For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption . . ." (verses 18-19).

Now a problem even more sinister developed among the scattered congregations of God's people. False teachers, instead of trying to impose more law on gentiles, began exploiting God's mercy—the grace of God—to advocate the idea that Christians have been liberated from the law and no longer need to obey it. However, God says transgressing His law is sin (1 John 3:4).

These teachers misrepresented God's law as an unnecessary burden. John responded: "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome" (1 John 5:3).

Contrary to the idea of being liberated from law, James calls God's commandments a "royal law" and the "law of liberty" (James 2:8-12). God designed His law to guarantee freedom from the consequences of such evils as adultery, murder, theft, fraud and covetousness.

It is sin, not God's law, that enslaves us (Romans 6:6). We become free from the enslavement to sin by obeying God (verse 17). Paul explains that obedience and righteousness are inseparable. "For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous" (Romans 2:13, NIV).

Satan the devil: master deceiver

Those who promoted these lawless principles were influenced by Satan. Paul said: "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works" (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).

Satan hates God's law. He is a master deceiver. Naturally, he will spare no effort to infiltrate the Church Christ founded.

To accomplish his purpose, Satan uses people to mislead other people. It is easy for him to influence human beings who desire to teach others when they are motivated by personal ambition. This is especially true if they lack a proper understanding of the Scriptures. Satan simply takes advantage of their desire to be spiritual teachers. He seduces susceptible individuals to pay lip service to Christ while creating their own new sets of doctrines and ignoring or disobeying portions of God's laws.

Paul told Timothy to "charge some that they teach no other doctrine" and have a "pure heart," "good conscience" and "sincere faith, . . . from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm" (1 Timothy 1:3, 6-7). Sincere but misguided religious leaders can and do accept doctrines that permit them to break some of God's commandments. Then they persuade others to believe as they do. Sadly, through the devil's influence, they convince themselves that their misguided concepts are righteous—that God is pleased with them. They believe the false doctrines they teach. Although sincere, they are sincerely mistaken.

Paul says, "The coming of the lawless one [a future teacher who will advocate doctrines contrary to God's laws] is according to the working of Satan . . . with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie" (2 Thessalonians 2:9-11). Probably none of the misguided teachers perceives he is in reality advocating Satan's point of view.

However, by creating a counterfeit-Christian religion—one that is not entirely different from the true Church but rejects some of the essential biblical teachings that lead to eternal life—Satan is attempting to thwart God's plan for the salvation of mankind. Remember, Jesus says, "if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17). That is exactly what the devil wants to prevent.

He promotes a lawless Christianity that teaches we can selectively obey—or even ignore—God's commandments.

Lawlessness in varying degrees is the centerpiece of Satan's counterfeit doctrines. His purpose is to convince people that they are serving Christ while cutting them off from salvation by clouding their understanding of what sin is so they will continue in sin—so they will practice at least some degree of lawlessness.

To accomplish his purpose, Satan exploits human nature. He sways people to believe his deceptions (1 John 5:19; Revelation 12:9). Satan retains just enough truth in his doctrines to persuade people they are following Christ. But he introduces sufficient error to prevent them from living the way that would ultimately lead to eternal life.

Why disobedience appeals to human nature

Satan is successful in deceiving humanity for good reason. The apostle Paul explains that the natural mind of man—the mind that is not guided by God's Spirit—cannot always see the purpose behind God's laws. "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Corinthians 2:14).

Most people are not overtly hostile toward many of God's laws. They usually recognize that deeds such as murder and theft are wrong. However, they are hostile—perhaps without recognizing their innate hostility—toward laws that challenge their own personal, natural way of thinking. In that sense lawlessness appeals to people. Paul explains why disobedience can appeal to our baser instincts: ". . . The carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be" (Romans 8:7). The carnal, or fleshly, mind not only lacks spiritual discernment, it resents God's authority as expressed in His laws. The New International Version translates this verse: ". . . The sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so."

We call this sinful tendency human nature—a combination of human weakness and acquired attitudes resulting from Satan's influence on people. Satan exploits human nature. He uses his false teachers to convince other people that they are "liberated" from the laws of God, thus excusing their tendency to be hostile toward God's laws. So, rather than abandoning a life of lawlessness, those led astray by this deception continue in sin. Thinking their disobedient actions are permissible to God, they fail to recognize, at least in some of their beliefs and behavior, the gravity of their sinful actions.

But the apostle James makes it clear that this approach and attitude to God's royal law are entirely wrong. "For whoever shall keep the whole law and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all" (James 2:10). The context shows James is speaking of the Ten Commandments (verses 8-9, 11). God's fundamental law is made up of 10 points, and He requires us to observe them all—in letter and spirit.

A falling away from truth begins

Christ praised the church in Ephesus for refusing to follow false apostles who tried to take advantage of their human nature and seduce them. "I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" (Revelation 2:2).

But not everyone in every congregation followed the example of the church in Ephesus. Many accepted the teachings of the false apostles and reverted to sinning. That is why Peter wrote: "For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them" (2 Peter 2:20-21).

People began turning away from the teachings of Christ's true apostles. They accepted the philosophies of false teachers. Peter had explicitly warned that this would occur. He said false teachers would arise "among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed" (2 Peter 2:1-2).

Peter anticipated that not just a few—but many—Christians would turn aside from the truth to follow doctrines that were more appealing to the carnal mind. Later John confirms this happened. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us" (1 John 2:19).

Barnabas and Saul (later renamed Paul) encountered a false prophet determined to turn people away from the truth. "Now when they had gone through the island to Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew whose name was Bar-Jesus, who was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus . . . But Elymas the sorcerer (for so his name is translated) withstood them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith" (Acts 13:6-8).

On other occasions the problem lay with false brethren (Galatians 2:4). Paul referred to his trials "in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren" (2 Corinthians 11:26).

These false Christians had not become a genuine threat just to Paul's safety and effectiveness, but they had also become a significant part of the visible Christian community. Some may have finally gone out from God's special people but continued calling themselves Christian. Others became members of new and supposedly liberated sects that retained the name Christian. Still others probably remained in the fellowship of true believers and over time subverted congregations to their own heretical teachings.

A false Christianity was beginning to take a firm hold.

True Christians forced out of congregations

As the teachings of false ministers gained in popularity, their followers gradually grew to be the majority in some congregations. The apostle John records one such tragic example: "I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to have the preeminence among them, does not receive us. Therefore, if I come, I will call to mind his deeds which he does, prating against us with malicious words. And not content with that, he himself does not receive the brethren, and forbids those who wish to, putting them out of the church" (3 John 9-10).

Incredible as it sounds, those who were faithful to the teaching of the apostles were expelled from this congregation. They had become the minority. The majority had chosen to follow Diotrephes, who, in his own lust for power and influence, falsely accused the apostle John. Satan had succeeded in placing his minister over this congregation, expelling the faithful servants of Jesus Christ.

Remember, Jesus had already warned His true servants that this would happen: "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves" (Matthew 7:13-15).

He also said: "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: 'These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men" (Mark 7:6-8, NIV). Now we can understand why Paul explained to Christians in Rome the appropriate response to those who were stirring up division within the Church. "Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them" (Romans 16:17).

Counterfeit Christianity dominates

By the end of the third century the true servants of God had become a distinct minority among those who called themselves Christians. The counterfeit Christianity had become the majority.

False teachers had successfully gained a far larger following than the faithful ministers of God. However, history shows the counterfeit sects were not united in their beliefs. Many factions existed among them.

Nevertheless, divided and unconverted as it was, this new brand of Christianity rapidly expanded its membership and became the visible Christian church. Purporting to offer salvation, but without the necessity of real repentance, it held just enough truth to appeal to the masses.

In spite of its faults, it appeared to offer a hope unequaled by any pagan religion at that time. None of the pagan religions offered a believable way for people to receive forgiveness of sins and obtain eternal life. This new religion seemed to offer just that. Little did its followers realize that its promises, without real repentance, were made in vain.

By the end of the third century this counterfeit Christianity was a squabbling, bitterly divided religion. But at the beginning of the fourth century two things happened that abruptly altered the course of Christian history. First, the Roman emperor Diocletian intensified the policy of many previous Roman emperors of persecuting Christians and ordered that all Christian manuscripts be burned. This dramatically renewed a climate of fear throughout the Christian community.

Ten years later another emperor, Constantine, came to power. He had defeated another powerful contender for the right to replace Diocletian as emperor, but he still had many enemies, and his political position remained insecure. In all the empire, only Christians were unaligned politically. Constantine immediately saw an opportunity to use this formerly persecuted and politically alienated religious body to strengthen his hold on the empire.

First he legalized Christianity. Then, only two years later, he called all the divided professing-Christian groups together to hammer out a unified system of belief. He wanted a united religious body that was politically committed to him.

To achieve this, Constantine presided over doctrinal deliberations and dictated statements of belief whenever disagreements could not be resolved amicably. He soon successfully molded the bickering groups of counterfeit Christians who were willing to accept state control into a strong and unified vassal of the Roman Empire. Williston Walker, former professor of ecclesiastical history at Yale University, tells us that, in 323, "Constantine was at last the sole ruler of the Roman world. The church was everywhere free from persecution . . . But, in winning its freedom from its enemies, it had come largely under the control of the occupant of the Roman imperial throne. A fateful union with the state had begun" (A History of the Christian Church, 1946, p. 111).

A religion transformed through syncretism

As this new religion—now supported by the Roman emperors—grew in power and influence, it sought to become a truly universal church. In its ambition to add more members, many new converts—and many new practices—were welcomed into its fold.

Charles Guignebert, professor of the history of Christianity at the University of Paris, described the process: "Now at the beginning of the fifth century, the ignorant and the semi-Christians thronged into the Church in numbers . . . They had forgotten none of their pagan customs . . . The bishops of that period had to content themselves with redressing, as best they could, and in experimental fashion, the shocking malformations of the Christian faith which they perceived around them . . .

"[Properly instructing converts] was out of the question; they had to be content with teaching them no more than the symbol of baptism and then baptizing them en masse, postponing until a later date the task of eradicating their superstitions, which they preserved intact . . . This 'later date' never arrived, and the Church adapted to herself, as well as she could, them and their customs and beliefs. On their side, they were content to dress up their paganism in a Christian cloak" (The Early History of Christianity, 1927, p. 208-210, emphasis added throughout).

What was the result? This state-dominated Christianity became a bizarre synthesis of beliefs, practices and customs from many sources.

As Guignebert explained: "It is sometimes very difficult to tell exactly from which pagan rite a particular Christian rite is derived, but it remains certain that the spirit of pagan ritualism became impressed upon Christianity, to such an extent that at last the whole of it might be found distributed through its ceremonies" (p. 121).

In those early centuries the counterfeit Christianity that the apostles of Jesus Christ had fought so hard to contain grew in size and popularity. In later centuries this religion would fragment repeatedly into competing denominations. Tragically, however, none completely returned to the original practices and teachings of Jesus Christ and the apostles. This fact is recognized by many modern biblical scholars. (See "Changes in Christian Scholars' Perspective on God's Law," p. 44.)

Meanwhile, those who, through these many centuries, have faithfully continued to yield their lives to God in sincere obedience to His laws are still, comparatively speaking, only a "little flock" in a confused world.



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To: DouglasKC
Curious that His Church, which he promised would endure to the end of the age, and against which the gates of Hell would not prevail, didn't even last 300 years.

He must have been a con artist. Is that your point?

121 posted on 07/11/2006 12:02:31 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Jim Noble
Curious that His Church, which he promised would endure to the end of the age, and against which the gates of Hell would not prevail, didn't even last 300 years. He must have been a con artist. Is that your point?

Not at all. My point is that the Church of God is not a manmade organization at all, but is composed of a called out body of believers. And since members of God's church are going to have eternal life, then of course his church can never die.

122 posted on 07/11/2006 12:17:54 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: AnAmericanMother

There was alot more detail than just the 'Holy Spirit'.
Also even the RCC does not state that the books between the testaments are 'inspired'. The Catachism states that they are good for instruction.

Protestants simply recognize the other points of Inspiriation that were recognized by the church to establish the canon.

Just a few of them here.
One; they claim to be holy scripture.
two; other scriputers recognize them as holy scripture.
Three; They do not contradict estabilshed scripture or scriptural teaching.
Four: Their historically accurate.

There are other tests that are valid for scripture that beleivers recognize and make sense. Yes the Holy Spirit brought these simple test out to God fearing men who then stated that these were scripture to the rest of us.

But they are time tested established tests of scripture.

One of the tests that is failed by the books protestants leave out, is direction in morality. The book of Tobit describes a holy angel lying directly. Is this a good representation of morality by a holy one? Is there any other place in scripture were a holy angel lyes?

There are lyes in scripture, almost every time satan speaks. But the scripture simply accurate record what satan said.

Many other things, like are there any verses in the rest of the bible that support the prayer of the living to the dead? Anywhere?

Some people say in Revelations, but just because the elders hear a prayer does not mean it was directed at them.

Again; how long will we be happy sitting in a car with no engine. Then selling that car to others with descriptions of the great trips we took in it.


123 posted on 07/11/2006 12:18:54 PM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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To: Claud
And how, pray, does the feast of Easter *not* keep that event?

First of all, the Passover is to be celebrated on the 14th of the month of Nisan....no matter which day it falls on. Error #1.

Secondly, the Passover is an eight day affair with two separate Sabbaths of its own....not counting the weekly. Error #2.

Thirdly, the Passover celebrates something other than what you folks celebrate on Easter. Error #3.

You know, Claud....there are many differences in the two events....they are not even similar. The point is, God's Holiday has been supplanted by something that is rife with paganism, has no scriptural authority, was never observed by the Apostles....or the early Church and Satan has the entire world believing it is correct to do this.

Are you a Messianic Jew?

No, I'm just a poor sinner who is amazed, everyday when I wake up that....... God actually wants me in his Kingdom.

125 posted on 07/11/2006 1:27:15 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Rhadaghast
The book of Tobit describes a holy angel lying directly.

He doesn't lie, he just doesn't identify himself in a straightforward manner. (That is to say, his "lie" is like you calling yourself "Rhadaghast" is a "lie".)

Hebrews speaks of "those who have entertained angels unaware" (13:2); you can't very easily entertain an angel unaware if they go around announcing that they're the archangel Raphael at every opportunity.

126 posted on 07/11/2006 1:28:29 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Diego1618
If you really think you're bound by the minutiae of the Mosaic Law to the extent that you're required to celebrate the Passover on 14 Nisan and that anyone who doesn't is a "pagan", you might just as well chain yourself up to the whole covenant of Sinai, keep kosher, go get yourself circumcised, and refuse to fellowship with the goyim.

Paul would have recognized you instantly, and not as a friend, either.

127 posted on 07/11/2006 1:33:05 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Diego1618
You know, Claud....there are many differences in the two events....they are not even similar.

I confess to have no idea where you are coming from with this one. I thought I'd heard everything.

The Passover *was* to be celebrated on the 14th of Nisan. And why? To commemorate the Isrealites' liberation from the bondage of Egypt. That is what a feast is, divine or otherwise. It commemorates an event. Now, if that deliverance should be commemorated with its own day, how much more should the day of Christ's delivering us from the bondage of sin be commemorated with its own feast. Christ's Resurrection was a far more perfect fulfillment of what the Exodus was only the prototype.

So for you to demand that we keep the old feast of the shadow, of the prophecy, and not keep the same, fulfilled feast of the real, true, and most perfect deliverance...well it is quite strange. I do not think you do so intentionally, but you end up wanting to cling to the date of Moses' deliverance over and against Christ's.

And as for Passover being an eight-day affair, obviously you don't have much familiarity with those liturgical churches (Catholic, Anglican, Orthodox) for whom the Easter cycle--to say nothing of Lent--begins with the solemn Palm Sunday liturgy and then Holy Week, proceeds to the sacred Triduum of Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday, and THEN gets its very own 8-day Easter octave of feasts during the whole subsequent week. It was the communities of the Reformation that dwindled it down to one day...we still keep the feast in the old manner.

And you keep saying that "it was not observed by the Apostles". Again, you have absolutely no evidence to say that. It is simply an assumption you are making based on nothing. John seems to have kept the 14th Nisan, but as for the rest? We simply don't know. Here's what Eusebius says:

1. A question of no small importance arose at that time. For the parishes of all Asia, as from an older tradition, held that the fourteenth day of the moon, on which day the Jews were commanded to sacrifice the lamb, should be observed as the feast of the Saviour’s passover.1687 It was therefore necessary to end their fast on that day, whatever day of the week it should happen to be. But it was not the custom of the churches in the rest of the world to end it at this time, as they observed the practice which, from apostolic tradition, has prevailed to the present time, of terminating the fast on no other day than on that of the resurrection of our Saviour.
Furthermore, the modern Passover is not even what it used to be any more. The temple has fallen, ergo no more sacrifices. No more sacrificial lambs. The holiday you claim to follow doesn't even exist as it once did. So I'm bewildered about your continued defense of it.
128 posted on 07/11/2006 1:55:14 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
Claud
You may wish to skim you way through this FR thread from 2000

The Seven Festivals Of The Messiah

b'shem Y'shua

129 posted on 07/11/2006 5:24:54 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Isaiah 26:4 Trust in YHvH forever, because YHvH is the Rock eternal.)
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To: Claud; DouglasKC; XeniaSt; kerryusama04
The Passover *was* to be celebrated on the 14th of Nisan.

Here is a link to A Calendar for the Holy Land for the year 27 a.d. You can change the year and month yourself to see which day Passover, the 14th of Nisan fell on. In year 30 a.d. it also fell on a Wednesday and in year 33 a.d. it fell on a Friday. Between the years 27 a.d. and 33 a.d. Passover fell on a Saturday once, a Wednesday twice, a Monday thrice and a Friday once.

Your Easter story say Christ was crucified on Good Friday at about 3:00 p.m. and was buried shortly before the Sabbath began at sunset. (Year 33 a.d.) It goes on to say He arose at sunrise on Sunday morning and this is one of the reasons for sunrise services throughout Christendom. It is also your rational for the celebration of Sunday as the Christian Sabbath as this was the day of resurrection. This is the gist of the celebration. I won't even get into the other traditions of Easter that we are all familiar with. Mark 16:2 indicates the women arrive at sunrise finding our Saviour arisen and I believe this is where most of the tradition began.

We know that Jesus began his ministry at age 30 because Luke 3:23 says so and Numbers 4:3,23,and 30 verify this. We know that his ministry lasted about 3 1/2 years because John indicates three separate Passover celebrations attended by The Lord in 2:13; 6:4; and 13:1. It is doubtful that Jesus was born in "Anno Domini one". Most historical sources now agree that it was anywhere from 3 to 6 b.c. The calendar we use today is based upon a 33 a.d. crucifixion. It is wrong.

More than likely it was the year 27 or 30 a.d. The reason for this is simple. The crucifixion, burial and resurrection took place over a three day (72 hour) period of time. Matthew 12:40 indicates the time Jesus himself prophesied that he would be in the tomb and we know that the Hebrew idiom that counts part of one day as a full day does not apply in this case. Both days and nights are mentioned eliminating this possibility. Scripture also verifies in four different places how long the entombment would be. Mark 8:31 says "after three days" (at least 72 hours). Matthew 27:63 says the same. Mark 9:31 says "the third day" (at least 48....no more than 72 hours). John 2:19-21 says "in three days" (not more than 72 hours). Scripture therefore says, without a question, the entombment had to have been exactly 72 hours.

In your scenario Jesus would have been in the tomb 36 hours....more or less.

Let's now get back to Mark 16. The first verse indicates the Sabbath is now over and the women are going to purchase some spices to anoint our Lord's body. Mark was not an eyewitness to the events and only wrote down what he had learned from Peter. Please see Papias, section VI for further clarification. When the scriptures were written there were no chapters and verses so the Sabbath spoken of in Mark 16:1 is actually the Sabbath you saw on the calendar earlier indicating the first Sabbath of unleavened Bread....Wednesday evening/Thursday......the Hebrews beginning their days at sunset. The reason we know this is because the women after purchasing these spices go home and prepare them and rest again for another Sabbath [Luke 23:56] this time the weekly Sabbath. The women had purchased and prepared the spices on the non Sabbath day of Thursday evening/Friday and the weekly Sabbath was Friday evening/Saturday.

Now, who are these women in Mark 16:2 that visit the tomb at sunrise? Contrary to popular belief, they are not Mary Magdalene, Mary the Mother of James, and Salome spoken of in Mark 16:1. Mark 16:1 should actually be Mark 15:48....a continuation of the thought process where Joseph of Arimathia was attempting to get the body buried before "that" Sabbath began [John 19:31] and of course this verse is the verification that the Sabbath here was a special Sabbath....not the weekly one. These women after finding the tomb empty run away, frightened....and tell no one (verse 8). In Matthew 28 Mary Magdalene and friends, filled with joy, run and tell the disciples! In Luke 24:9 they tell the disciples! In John 20:2 they tell the disciples!

This brings me to Matthew 28:1. The Septuagint, the Vulgate, The Douay-Rheims and the King James all say "Late on Sabbath....or in the End of the Sabbath." The Greek word "Epiphosko" translated "Dawn" in many translations can also mean "to begin" or "to draw on" like it does the only other place it is used in scripture [Luke 23:54] and the Sabbath was drawing on as Joseph was hurriedly trying to get the body in the tomb. This was taking place just before sunset on Wednesday evening and since we know our Lord would be entombed for 72 hours he would have resurrected Late on Sabbath. In Matthew, Luke and John it is easily verified that the resurrection took place on the Sabbath. Mark 16:2 simply says the tomb was empty Sunday morning.

There is no command anywhere in scripture to celebrate Sunday as the day of resurrection. There is no command anywhere in scripture to do away with Passover. The Apostles celebrated Passover as did our Saviour. The last living Apostle, John, saw to it that his disciples were instructed in the correct manner and all of the early churches in the "East" celebrated the Passover on the 14th. The doctrinal error emanated from Rome and it continues.........

130 posted on 07/11/2006 9:07:13 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: vladimir998

actually, there is no proof, it's just statements made by those outside of the apostolic churches and the Assyrian church.


131 posted on 07/11/2006 9:48:21 PM PDT by Cronos (Islam is on the rampage -- where will the next bombing be?)
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To: XeniaSt
One of the titles of the Roman Emperor was Pontifix Maximus, a title given to the Roman Emperor by the king of Ephesus who had inherited the title from Babylon

That is sooo funny -- the term Pontifex Maximus translates as Chief Priest, just like you had Aaron as the Chief Priest of Israel.  The ancient Romans before Christ also had Chief Priests who they called Chief Priest (Pont. Max.).  You really ought to verify things before saying them or else next you'll say that Christianity is just a variation of Mithraism.....

This title goes all the way back to Babylon and the beginnings of the mother-child
cult under Nimrod of Genesis 10

Another false statement

When the Babylonian cult of the Magians was driven out of Babylon,
they found a haven in Pergamum.

Any proof of that?  The Magi were priests in pre-Zoroastrian Persia, not really Babylon.  Your beliefs also include Xenu and thetans?

132 posted on 07/11/2006 9:54:07 PM PDT by Cronos (Islam is on the rampage -- where will the next bombing be?)
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To: XeniaSt

paganism was introduced in the modern so-called "churchs" in the 20th century when they deviated further and further away from Christianity and the Church. Any Church created in the last 100 years by mere men is a diseased joke of true Christianity.


133 posted on 07/11/2006 9:56:29 PM PDT by Cronos (Islam is on the rampage -- where will the next bombing be?)
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To: vladimir998; DouglasKC
Isn't that exactly how you Protestants treat the Bible? Get ten Protestants in a room, give them one verse and you'll get eleven interpretations!

Sola scriptura leads to SOLO scriptura -- unlike the Church where we read the debates put over the centuries by the Church fathers and we see more sides to it than we can imagine as single beings.

Remember that the Church is a community and also that God is too immense for one solitary person to understand

134 posted on 07/11/2006 10:02:41 PM PDT by Cronos (Islam is on the rampage -- where will the next bombing be?)
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To: vladimir998

well, they believe anything, no healthy dose of Catholic sceptism, eh?


135 posted on 07/11/2006 10:36:51 PM PDT by Cronos (Islam is on the rampage -- where will the next bombing be?)
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To: Diego1618

Easter is the Passover, you argue over words -- in Latin languages Easter is Pâques in French, pascua in Spanish, pasqua in Italian,


136 posted on 07/11/2006 10:41:58 PM PDT by Cronos (Islam is on the rampage -- where will the next bombing be?)
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To: Campion

Tell that to Gabriel.
or
Micheal.
He also encourages Tobit to lye.

-Concerning the Apocryphal / Deutero-canonical books -

"It seems, however, that they did not continue to hold their place along with the other books, for Athanasius, bishop of Alexandria, in his Festal Epistle in 367 gave a list of the books of the Bible which were to be read, and at the close of this list he said:

"There are also other books besides these, not canonized, yet set by the Fathers to be read to those who have just come up and who wish to be informed as to the word of godliness: Wisdom, Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobit, the so-called Teaching of the Apes, and the Shepherd of Hermas." Jerome also made a distinction between the apocryphal books and the others. In his Preface, after enumerating the books contained in the Hebrew Canon, he adds: "This prologue I write as a preface to the books to be translated by us from the Hebrew into Latin, that we may know that all the books which are not of this number are apocrphyal; therefore Wisdom, which is commonly ascribed to Solomon as its author, and the book of Jesus the son of Sirach, Judith, Tobit and the Shepher are not in the Canon." Rufinus made the same distinction as did Jerome. He declared that "these books are not canonical, but have been called by our forefathers ecclesiastical." Augustine included these books in his list which he published in 397. He begins the list thus: "The entire canon of Scripture is comprised in these books." Then follows a list of the books which includes Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, 2 Esdras, Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus, and it closes with these words: "In these 44 books is comprised all the authority of the Old Testament." Inasmuch as these books were regarded by the church at large as ecclesiastical and helpful, and Augustine had given them canonical sanction, they rapidly gained in favor and most of them are found in the great manuscripts. "



All this talk about the obvious faults of the apochriphal books is missing the point. The church recognized the Cannon of scripture, they did not determine, nor empower these books in anyway. Just as the protestants continue to recognize the traditional books using the same process and guidence as the councel did.

You keep turning the key, but you don't move forward...


137 posted on 07/12/2006 5:00:37 AM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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To: Diego1618
"No, I'm just a poor sinner who is amazed, everyday when I wake up that....... God actually wants me in his Kingdom."

 I understand that and applaud your honesty.

So many here are more interested in arguing over what size camel could be put through the eye of the needle, rather than understand the simple facts of our faith.

Those same simple facts lost and misconstrued by a Church that has a vested interest in its monopoly and deception.

138 posted on 07/12/2006 5:09:40 AM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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To: Diego1618
There is no command anywhere in scripture to celebrate Sunday as the day of resurrection. There is no command anywhere in scripture to do away with Passover. The Apostles celebrated Passover as did our Saviour. The last living Apostle, John, saw to it that his disciples were instructed in the correct manner and all of the early churches in the "East" celebrated the Passover on the 14th. The doctrinal error emanated from Rome and it continues.........

There is no Scriptural command NOT TO celebrate Sunday as the day of Resurrection either. And as for doing away with Passover, for the 100th time, we *do* celebrate Passover--only this is the Passover of the fulfillment, not the Passover of the promise. Our Savior celebrated Passover in the Jewish way because He was not risen yet. Once He rose, what Moses prefigured became a fuller reality.

And I say again, it was *not* all of the early Churches in the East which had Easter on 14 Nisan. It was the bishops of Asia, i.e. Asia Minor--what we would now consider Turkey.

And you still haven't answered why, when John's disciples dealt with the Easter Sunday people, they agreed to disagree *without condemning the practice. They did not say it was unscriptural or wrong or apostate. Yet you somehow feel free to condemn the Easter Sunday as total apostasy. You are lording more authority over Christendom than St. John's disciples did--and I need hardly had that you have incomparably less authority to do so.

139 posted on 07/12/2006 5:34:55 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Cronos
Isn't that exactly how you Protestants treat the Bible? Get ten Protestants in a room, give them one verse and you'll get eleven interpretations!

LOL

Cronos, isn't it funny, that the term Sola Scriptura is not found in the bible?


140 posted on 07/12/2006 7:55:20 AM PDT by Theoden (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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