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To: monkapotamus
Does this article insinuate that a woman Bishop is worse than a gay Bishop? Further, if the election of a gay Bishop didn't kill off the denomination, how is the election of a woman Bishop going to do so?

Please bear in mind that I have minimal knowledge of the Episcopal church.

3 posted on 06/18/2006 3:05:26 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: kerryusama04

I think she's a lesbian, too? Or am I thinking of a different recent ECUSA appointment?


4 posted on 06/18/2006 3:21:12 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: kerryusama04; thoughtomator
She supports the blessing of same-sex unions and voted to approved the consecration of homoerotic cleric Gene Robinson. A fellow traveler in every sense.

Most of the Anglican Communion does not recognize female Bishops; much of it does not Ordain female priests.

This being the 30th anniversary of ECUSA ordaining female priests I suppose the deputies felt the need to "celebrate" this occasion by yet another in-your-face to their soon to be former global partners.
10 posted on 06/18/2006 5:12:02 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: kerryusama04
if the election of a gay Bishop didn't kill off the denomination, how is the election of a woman Bishop going to do so?

This isn't the election of a bishop, it is the election of the presiding bishop.

For example, the Catholic church could survive a gay bishop here or there, but a female 'pope' would be radical.

And to clarify a mis-statement by another, she is married and there is no indication that she is a lesbian, although she seems sympathetic to their cause.

16 posted on 06/18/2006 10:26:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: kerryusama04
Does this article insinuate that a woman Bishop is worse than a gay Bishop? Further, if the election of a gay Bishop didn't kill off the denomination, how is the election of a woman Bishop going to do so?

No. It is most definitely not worse.

However, it was hoped that the EC USA would repent of its ways and take a steadier course back to a the safe harbor of one holy, catholic and apostolic church.

Instead, the ECUSA has defiantly said by her election, "Not only are we not repentant of electing and ordaining a homosexual, but here is a further slap in the face of electing a woman to head the entire ECUSA.

It's like reprimanding your child for reckless behavior behind the wheel of the family car and the next time the child drives, he not only thumbs his nose at you as he pulls out of the drive, but he also puts on a blindfold.

21 posted on 06/19/2006 5:26:04 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: kerryusama04
Does this article insinuate that a woman Bishop is worse than a gay Bishop? Further, if the election of a gay Bishop didn't kill off the denomination, how is the election of a woman Bishop going to do so?

I can't speak for Episcopalians, being Catholic, but on the Ecumenical side of the question (which I know is weighing heavily on the minds of those Anglicans who truly believe themselves to be a part of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church) there is a huge difference.

A man can be ordained bishop no matter how heinously he sins, and the ordination--while it may have been idiotic, stupid, imprudent, whatever--still holds as a valid sacrament.

A woman cannot be ordained a bishop no matter what, because she is not, "valid matter" for the sacrament. Even if she goes through the ceremony of being ordained, it is null and void from the get-go.

22 posted on 06/19/2006 9:37:55 AM PDT by Claud
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