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To: blue-duncan; Corin Stormhands; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; jude24; Buggman; ...

Where are the men?

Two thoughts come to mind:

-men are turned off by Jesus is my boyfriend songs ("Hold me close, wrap your arms around me..")
-men's ministries are patterned after women's ministies. Men want to jump off cliffs into rivers and fish/hunt. Not sit around and talk about their feelings

my 0.02 cents


13 posted on 06/13/2006 10:25:42 AM PDT by Gamecock (a)
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14 posted on 06/13/2006 10:26:48 AM PDT by Gamecock (a)
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To: Gamecock; blue-duncan; Corin Stormhands; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; jude24
lol Probably a combination of both, with some other factors. ("Jesus is my boyfriend songs"--I've got to remember that one.)

In my case, it was the Planck length-thick teaching (and the scowls at those of us who asked difficult questions and pursued deeper issues--not primarily from the leadership, but from the other laity!) that first stirred me to go hunting for a new congregation.

17 posted on 06/13/2006 10:50:34 AM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Gamecock
men are turned off by Jesus is my boyfriend songs ("Hold me close, wrap your arms around me..")

Read: The Church Impotent: The Feminization of Christianity by Leon Podles. He is Catholic but his comments apply (and are directed) at Protestantism as well. Interestingly, he asserts that the Eastern Orthodox don't have this problem.

men's ministries are patterned after women's ministies. Men want to jump off cliffs into rivers and fish/hunt. Not sit around and talk about their feelings

Amen and Amen. The pagans are way ahead of us on how to have a really cool men's retreat

22 posted on 06/13/2006 11:54:56 AM PDT by Rytwyng (Only a Million Minuteman March can stop the Bush Border Betrayal!)
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To: Gamecock
my 0.02 cents

That would be 0.02 dollars.

27 posted on 06/13/2006 12:21:29 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: Gamecock; Buggman
-men are turned off by Jesus is my boyfriend songs ("Hold me close, wrap your arms around me..")

That is very funny.

Or even, go dancing with me:

"Dance then, whereever you may be
For I am the Lord of the Dance," said He
"And I'll lead you all, whereever you may be
And I'll lead you all in the Dance," said He

Not every man wants to dance with Jesus. And if he is dancing, the man takes the lead.

57 posted on 06/13/2006 5:13:34 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Gamecock

Can't say as I've seen this in our Reformed church, we men are the deacons, elders, and decision-makers.

In our previous American Baptist/Sunday Pot-luck/Extremely Liberal Theology church, it was the opposite, and the women outnumbered the men 4-1.

When the Truth is preached unapologetically, the Lord blesses. When the preaching is weak and shallow, strife abounds.


98 posted on 06/15/2006 8:01:58 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("All that hath life and breath, come now with praises before Him.")
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