Vatican official to Anglicans: Women bishops would destroy unity

Catholic News Service ^ | June 7, 2006 | Simon Caldwell

[NYer]

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[newgeezer]

Curiously, there appears to be no mention of what the Bible says about the issue.

[Antoninus]

Curiously, there appears to be no mention of what the Bible says about the issue.

Can you name me any female Apostles?

[AnAmericanMother]

Actually, that's because the Church has always treated the male priesthood as a question of tradition and discipline, not of absolute Scriptural authority.

[ArrogantBustard]

That's already been taken care of. See here, for example. Note that references to the Sacred Scriptures are inlined, rather than footnoted.

[NYer]

Why don't you do that for us.

[ArrogantBustard]

NOT so ... see again the late Pope John Paul II's letter Ordination Sacerdotalis, linked above. The matter of priestly celibacy IS, as you say, one of tradition and discipline.

[PetroniusMaximus]

"Curiously, there appears to be no mention of what the Bible says about the issue."


1 Timothy 3:2
"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;"



Hard to be the "husband of one wife" if you're a female.

(Also hard to be a "husband of one wife" if you're a Catholic Bishop.)

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[trisham]

Cardinal Kasper said that Pope John Paul II had made it clear that the church's position on women's ordinations "in no way rose from a denial of the equal dignity of men and women ... but is based solely on the fidelity to apostolic testimony as it has been handed down in the church throughout the centuries."

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Works for me.

[Cheverus]

I guess that means that there can be women Bishops here in Mass!! (must go vomit now)

[ArrogantBustard]

Not as hard as you think ... it certainly would be a change from current practice, and unprecedented in recent history. Even in the East, where married men are often ordained to the priesthood the bishops are chosen from among the ranks of celibate monks.

Still, there would be no theological problem with it. It's a matter of discipline and prudence.

Priestesses, and bishopesses, on the other hand are a huge Scriptural and theological problem.

[linda_22003]

"Priestesses, and bishopesses"

No, whatever the gender, they are called priests and bishops. Hope that helps.

[ArrogantBustard]

No, they are priestesses and bishopesses, and the Anglicans' habit of ordaining them simply takes them further down the road of apostacy.

Hope that helps.

[ArrogantBustard]

Oh, yes.

Nouns and verbs have gender. Gender is a grammatical term. They are masculine, feminine, or neuter.

Men and women, boys and girls have sex. They are either male or female.

Hope that helps, too.

[linda_22003]

And.... you can't spell apostasy. Hope that helps! You have the choice to not be Anglican, and I don't see a reason the churches should unite, frankly.

[Carolina]

and I don't see a reason the churches should unite, frankly.

Tell that to Jesus who prayed "That they all may be one." You tell Him to His face that His Church should not be one.

[linda_22003]

Well, you're going to have a problem with the Southern Baptists.