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Vatican official to Anglicans: Women bishops would destroy unity
Catholic News Service ^
| June 7, 2006
| Simon Caldwell
Posted on 06/08/2006 10:00:40 AM PDT by NYer
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06/08/2006 10:00:42 AM PDT
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NYer
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:01:16 AM PDT
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NYer
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06/08/2006 10:02:27 AM PDT
by
NYer
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To: NYer
Curiously, there appears to be no mention of what the Bible says about the issue.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:03:13 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
To: newgeezer
Curiously, there appears to be no mention of what the Bible says about the issue.
Can you name me any female Apostles?
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:08:53 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
To: newgeezer
Actually, that's because the Church has always treated the male priesthood as a question of tradition and discipline, not of absolute Scriptural authority.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:10:57 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
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To: newgeezer
That's already been taken care of. See
here, for example. Note that references to the Sacred Scriptures are inlined, rather than footnoted.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:11:27 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: newgeezer
Why don't you do that for us.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:11:50 AM PDT
by
NYer
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To: AnAmericanMother; newgeezer
NOT so ... see again the late Pope John Paul II's letter Ordination Sacerdotalis, linked above. The matter of priestly celibacy IS, as you say, one of tradition and discipline.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:13:43 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: newgeezer
"Curiously, there appears to be no mention of what the Bible says about the issue."
1 Timothy 3:2
"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;"
Hard to be the "husband of one wife" if you're a female.
(Also hard to be a "husband of one wife" if you're a Catholic Bishop.)
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06/08/2006 10:21:19 AM PDT
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To: NYer
Cardinal Kasper said that Pope John Paul II had made it clear that the church's position on women's ordinations "in no way rose from a denial of the equal dignity of men and women ... but is based solely on the fidelity to apostolic testimony as it has been handed down in the church throughout the centuries."***************
Works for me.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:23:20 AM PDT
by
trisham
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To: PetroniusMaximus
I guess that means that there can be women Bishops here in Mass!! (must go vomit now)
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:24:50 AM PDT
by
Cheverus
To: PetroniusMaximus
Not as hard as you think ... it certainly would be a change from current practice, and unprecedented in recent history. Even in the East, where married men are often ordained to the priesthood the bishops are chosen from among the ranks of celibate monks.
Still, there would be no theological problem with it. It's a matter of discipline and prudence.
Priestesses, and bishopesses, on the other hand are a huge Scriptural and theological problem.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:25:10 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
"Priestesses, and bishopesses"
No, whatever the gender, they are called priests and bishops. Hope that helps.
To: linda_22003
No, they are priestesses and bishopesses, and the Anglicans' habit of ordaining them simply takes them further down the road of apostacy.
Hope that helps.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:28:18 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: linda_22003
Oh, yes.
Nouns and verbs have gender. Gender is a grammatical term. They are masculine, feminine, or neuter.
Men and women, boys and girls have sex. They are either male or female.
Hope that helps, too.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:30:05 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: ArrogantBustard
And.... you can't spell apostasy. Hope that helps! You have the choice to not be Anglican, and I don't see a reason the churches should unite, frankly.
To: linda_22003
and I don't see a reason the churches should unite, frankly.Tell that to Jesus who prayed "That they all may be one." You tell Him to His face that His Church should not be one.
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posted on
06/08/2006 10:36:51 AM PDT
by
Carolina
To: Carolina
Well, you're going to have a problem with the Southern Baptists.
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