Posted on 06/03/2006 9:22:46 AM PDT by bornacatholic
I have high school friends, a Presbyterian minister and his wife, good, intelligent people. They went on a church-sponsored trip to Israel and when they came back all they talked about was the suffering of the Palestinians under the Israelis.
It was a canned tour - they could have been exposed to the sufferings of the Jews and the Christians from the Muslims - they could have been shown all sides of this sorry conflict - but they weren't.
I really don't understand why the Presbyterian church is doing this.
Mrs VS
(my $.02) - the pope can't offically canonize the Anglican martyrs of Uganda because that would be like stealing them from the Anglican communion. But if/when the Anglicans return to full communion with the Catholic church they and some others would be proclaimed capital "S" Saints.
Blessed Pentecost to you.
In any event, I haven't been back since the local minister attacked Catholic Doctrine on the eucharist and the mass as heretical during his sermon.
I experienced the remarks as falling short of the optimum ecumenical atmospherics I expected :)
As to why this Presbyterian Organisation opposes Israel, I don't really know. I do think it wrong
"I really don't understand why the Presbyterian church is doing this."
The Presbyterians, like the Methodists, Episcopalians, and UCC, have been taken over by ultra-leftwing radicals. The people in the pews refuse to accept their "denomination" has become a scourge to Christianity. Instead the membership keeps sending money up the denominational ladder to keep the leftist scoundrels in their jobs.
God, Inc. spun off the PC-USA some years ago. The Wall Street Journal reports that this formerly wholly owned subsidiary was purchased by the Democratic National Committe, and has been losing market share ever since.
LOL
Even conservative Presbyterians are still Reformed in their theology, and generally Supercessionist (Israel is really the church) in regards to Israel. Now, some, like D. James Kennedy support Israel for secular reasons, because they are democratic, allies against terrorism, etc. But this essay summarizes the the position of Kennedy's Knox Theological Seminary.
"The present secular state of Israel, however, is not an authentic or prophetic realization of the Messianic kingdom of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, a day should not be anticipated in which Christ's kingdom will manifest Jewish distinctives, whether by its location in "the land," by its constituency, or by its ceremonial institutions and practices."
http://www.knoxseminary.org/Prospective/Faculty/WittenbergDoor/
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." -- Romans 9:6-8"Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
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