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Jews & Evangelicals Together: Why some Christians are so pro-Israel
National Review Q&A ^ | 05/21/2006 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 05/22/2006 9:31:53 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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1 posted on 05/22/2006 9:31:55 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

I believe the only Jews who are God's Chosen People are those who have accepted His Son.

That said, I have nothing against Israel or Jews. I can agree to disagree with them on any and everything and still be civil.

Just as they don't believe God considers me one of His, I do not believe those who have not accepted Christ are saved, either.

God's Chosen People are those who follow God. All Christians know that no one who does not accept His Son cannot be following God.

And for those hoping to usher in the "end times" by helping Israel build the Temple back up, I personally believe they are being duplicitous with Israel in their reasoning. However, any Jew can read the New Testament and determine this motivation.


2 posted on 05/22/2006 9:40:58 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind
The one game I will never play with any person, religion, or institution, "Unless you LOVE me - then you must really hate me..." I detect a lot of this feeling from all sides of this issue. It's childish.
3 posted on 05/22/2006 9:46:39 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SirLinksalot

Great read. Ping for later.


4 posted on 05/22/2006 9:59:33 AM PDT by madconservative (Founding member of the Constantinople Liberation Organization.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Once the Jews were thus removed from God’s love, the door was opened to man’s hate. And this was a door through which generation after generation of Christians walked.

Actually that's unfair. There is nothing Christian about wanting to kill anyone, and any theology that seeks to do that is evil. It may use the name of Christ but it does so illegitimately. Further, that theology does not remove Jews from God's love at all. Absolutely not. If it did, how was it that all the Apostles were Jews? The gospel is open to all, "the Jews first, then the Greeks."

Ro 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

5 posted on 05/22/2006 10:03:25 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SirLinksalot

Thanks for posting this interesting article. I think Brog is pretty much correct in his analysis. For the most part, Christian Zionists have a sense of compassionate shared history with the Jews. This is very different than the supremacist "tolerance" of Muslims. Foxman is making a big mistake in his complaints about evangelicals. It is not evangelicalism that is weakening Judaism. It is being weakened (as is Christianity) by the liberals within their own religion. Frankly, I think liberal Jews are more Liberals than they are Jewish, just as I believe liberal Christians are more Liberal than Christian. Jews who remain interested in the future of Israel might want to reconsider their pro-choice views before the country disappears for lack of Jewish population.


6 posted on 05/22/2006 10:04:58 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Many of God's Old Testament promises to Israel remain unfulfilled. God has not abandoned the people of Israel.


7 posted on 05/22/2006 10:05:24 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (As the Democrat Party becomes more evil, the GOP becomes more stupid. What's a voter to do?)
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God unconditionally gave the land of Israel to Abraham and his decendents (through his son Isaac) forever. That covenant is re-stated in the Prophets. The Israelites were displaced temporarily for disobediance, but they have clear title to the land in perpetuity. Replacement theology is not biblical, though I don't go so far as some of the TBN crowd and call it a doctrine of the devil.


8 posted on 05/22/2006 10:46:30 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: SirLinksalot

Ping to read later


9 posted on 05/22/2006 11:21:23 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: SirLinksalot

I think that in Spain, during the Inquisition, Protestants were condemned to death along with Jews, and sometimes Protestants were murdered under the presumption or allegation of being Jewish, so perhaps that fact alone led the Protestants to have a sense of solidarity with the Jews and the State of Israel, well in advance of the reconciliation between Catholics and Jews.


10 posted on 05/22/2006 11:37:24 AM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

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11 posted on 05/22/2006 11:54:29 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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Ping!


12 posted on 05/22/2006 12:01:12 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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To: SirLinksalot
Why some Christians are so pro-Israel

Cuz we think all Israelis look like Charlton Heston...
15 posted on 05/22/2006 12:42:46 PM PDT by BJClinton (Forget the fence, annex Mexico.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Thank you for this excellent article. I would disagree with you on the statement that God's chosen people can only be Christians though. That is just my opinion, and I'm sure most here would agree with you. IMHO, the covenant between God and the Jews was not made invalid with the coming of Jesus Christ. That is why I don't consider myself evangelical. I don't think that observant Jews need my advice to relate to God.


16 posted on 05/22/2006 12:56:12 PM PDT by Sender (“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names.” – Old Chinese proverb)
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To: ConservativeMind
Just as they don't believe God considers me one of His, I do not believe those who have not accepted Christ are saved, either.

This is certainly an ignorant statement. I don't of any Jews who think Christians are going to be damned in hell for eternity.

17 posted on 05/22/2006 1:01:26 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: SirLinksalot
Fundamentalists have been Zionists sporadically since the days of Increase Mather, and constantly since the 1870's. The reason is simple: Judaism is the religion of the Bible. When one reads the Bible one doesn't read about the Middle Ages or ancient chr*stian Armenia; one reads about the Jewish Theocracy of Israel. All the sentimentalism (I know, some will attack me for using that word) that Catholics and Orthodox have for the "golden age of the Councils" is reserved by Biblical Fundamentalists for Jewish Israel.

When Fundamentalist Protestants read the "new testament" they read that the "old covenant" was "done away with" (chas vechalilah!), but they don't see anything authorized to replace it. The Catholic/Orthodox world may be authentic chr*stianity, but the "new testament" captures the church at the moment of its birth and most of that doesn't come through. When Catholics/Orthodox attack Protestant "sola scriptura" and "salvation by faith alone" in favor of chr*stian "holy tradition" to the Biblical Fundamentalist mind all those arguments accrue to Judaism, since Judaism is actually detailed at length in the Bible itself. If observance of the "new law" doesn't deny the "salvific mission" of J*sus, they tell themselves, then how much the less does the actual Biblical Law contradict it?

Ideologicall and theologically Fundamentalist Protestants are Judaeo-chr*stian syncretists trying to restore the long-lost Jewish-chr*stian tradition, which is held to be chr*stianity par exellence. It tears my heart out that my beloved people simply will not even consider the claims of Judaism/Noachism without the "new testament," but I cannot help but admire their loyalty.

18 posted on 05/22/2006 1:27:13 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . `al korchakha 'attah chay, `al korchakha tamut . . .)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
This is certainly an ignorant statement.

Well, leave it to Invincibly Ignorant to know...
19 posted on 05/22/2006 1:54:01 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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Well, leave it to Invincibly Ignorant to know...

Do you always react that way when you're backed into a corner?

20 posted on 05/22/2006 2:33:41 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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