Posted on 05/21/2006 2:04:31 PM PDT by Full Court
Ich kann es sprechen, aber Ich kann es nicht gut gehoren und verstehen.
Wenn also hat Gott die Welt geliebt, das Er seinen eingebornen Sohn....
At the request of clergy, he commissioned the effort.
He had no hand in the translation itself.
I assume you know that the scholars who worked on the Bible and the text they used are considered the finest the world has ever known.
No man worked as an island on that project. No man was his own final authority on what the text "really meant."
If the translators were not in total agreement, they went no further until they were, through seeking the Lord's face, in prayer and fasting.
How very silly it's all become that there are those who would seek to become not only the "doctrine police" but the "speech police" as well.
It's 1984 all over again.
My suggestion to anyone that seeks to harass me because of the way I speak, find something more Christlike to do with your time.
And I am not a "he."
Sie müssen die Luther Bibel auch haben.
"She" then.
(No way I could have known that based on your name. "Full Court" suggests basketball, perhaps, which is a male sport only recently adapted to females.
Why do so many FR females select a male FR name? Isn't that sort of like wearing the trousers, "dressing like a male?" :>)
"Though often referred to as the King James Version, the only active part King James took in the translation was lifting the criminal (death) penalty attached to its translation and setting very reasonable guidelines for the translation process (such as prohibiting partisan scholarship and footnotes)."(wikipedia)
You have an umlaut on your keyboard? No fair....I want one.
I've read that King James supported homosexuals. Is that true?
So, you're a pedobaptist?
True or false: all the Majority text manuscripts have identical readings.
True or false: the King James Version was based on the Textus Receptus.
No he doesn't. He doesn't have any original texts.
And any man that think he alone is smarter than the men who together translated the AV should study the lives of those men and the process by which the Bible was translated.
"You have an umlaut on your keyboard?"
I had one on mine once but the techie at the office said to use "Blow Off Duster" and it would remove it without harming the equipment. Caution, don't use it in a closed room, keep the door or window open. Thought I'd just pass that along.
Window open is an absolute necessity.
Never know when an umlaut will blow right past you without so much as a "howdy-do!"
Wow, how do you argue with a source like that?
The KJV is still a TRANSLATION. It is not a perfect TRANSLATION. It is a good TRANSLATION. In many passages it is an INFERIOR TRANSLATION. It is also an ARCHAIC TRANSLATION. In other words, in order to understand the KJV, you often have to do your own translation. You have to attempt to explain the meaning of the English to an English speaking audience.
Frankly if you were honest, you would have to admit that if the KJV and the KJV only is the work of God and that any attempt to improve on it or explain it is a sin against God's word, then you would not be able to do any explaining of your doctrinal positions here on Free Republic. You should be limited to posting verses out of the KJV without comment.
The fact that you need to explain your doctrinal positions in your own words after you post your KJV verses means that the KJV needs to be (gasp) "paraphrased" in order to be understood.
So get off your high horse. Everyone translates their Bibles from whatever is on the page to whatever goes in their hearts and minds. The Holy Spirit does not teach us all things only when we use the authorized translation. The Holy Spirit is prefectly capable of transmitting his teachings even through such miserable translations as "Good News for Modern Man". I've seen people get saved after hearing preachers preach with that awful translation. I've also seen people fall into horrific heresy using the KJV only.
Thank you FC these dudes were confusing me he/she it was hard to follow them!
Bless you for your standing firm!
EXPLANATION: Many critics of the perfect Bible like to point out that the original King James had the Apocrypha in it as though that fact compromises its integrity. But several things must be examined to get the factual picture.
First, in the days in which our Bible was translated, the Apocrypha was accepted reading based on its historical value, though not accepted as Scripture by anyone outside of the Catholic church.
The King James translators therefore placed it between the Old and New Testaments for its historical benefit to its readers. They did not integrate it into the Old Testament text as do the corrupt Alexandrian manuscnpts.
That they rejected the Apocrypha as divine is very obvious by the seven reasons which they gave for not incorporating it into the text. They are as follows:
1. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.
2. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.
3. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.
4. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.
5. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.
6. The Apocrypha inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.
7. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation. (Dr. Sam Gipp.)
Use your word processer and use the pull down menu. Go to "insert" "symbol". Look around. There's an umlaut there somewhere.
When I signed on, my son was playing basketball.
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