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To: vladimir998; Full Court
Circumcision was a "Jewish" thing since it was required of Jews.

The point I was making was...circumcision of an eight day old infant was not a voluntary thing. It was a requirement of God. It was to be a sign of his covenant with Abraham and his descendants......some of which were Jews.

Also, Jesus was baptized by the Baptist. He couldn't be baptized until the Baptist began his ministry.

God could have seen to it that Jesus would have been baptized as an infant. He did not, and the the fact that Jesus set his example, as an adult, speaks volumes.

There is no mention or example of infant baptism in scripture. It is a myth perpetuated by the mainstream church. "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: But when I became a man, I put away childish things." [Corinthians 13:11] This verse by itself should be justification for adult baptism.

219 posted on 05/19/2006 3:19:58 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

You wrote: "The point I was making was...circumcision of an eight day old infant was not a voluntary thing. It was a requirement of God. It was to be a sign of his covenant with Abraham and his descendants......some of which were Jews."

True, but irrelevant. Baptism is also obligatory. Christ sent the apostles out to preach and baptize.

"God could have seen to it that Jesus would have been baptized as an infant. He did not, and the the fact that Jesus set his example, as an adult, speaks volumes."

It speaks volumes, but not about baptism. Jesus set an example by being baptized. He was going to sent the Apostles out into a Jewish and Gentile world, not a Christian world already possessing infant baptism. The vast majority of people to be baptized therefore would be adults -- just like Christ. Again, this is related to circumcision. Since most converts, that is most new Christians, were adults they were not inclined to accept the teachings of the Judaizers who demanded that the Gentile men who wanted to be Christians had to be circumcised. Again, the Christians were going into a world made up mostly of non-infants to say the least.

"There is no mention or example of infant baptism in scripture. It is a myth perpetuated by the mainstream church."

Nonsense. It is reality. I posted the writings of the early Church fathers that attest to this.

"This verse by itself should be justification for adult baptism."

No, it isn't.


399 posted on 05/23/2006 12:48:18 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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