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From Operation Rescue to Operation Convert [Randall Terry now Catholic]
National Catholic registar ^ | 5/17/06 | TIM DRAKE

Posted on 05/17/2006 9:08:53 PM PDT by Full Court

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To: Sir_Ed

I've got a question for you, do ask others to pray for you who are sinners?

Of course you do!!

Then why not ask someone who is a saint and in heaven already to pray for you??

Makes sense to me.


41 posted on 05/18/2006 9:41:27 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Eepsy

Excellent points. Thanks for the links too!


42 posted on 05/18/2006 9:43:46 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Claud

**which are the prayers of the saints. **

Bingo!


43 posted on 05/18/2006 9:45:28 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: buckeyesrule

Peggy Noonan is Catholic and I think that Laura Ingrahm may be also. Ann Coultler is a devout Jew.


44 posted on 05/18/2006 9:47:24 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: marshmallow
The world's most famous prostitute was, after all, the first to see the risen Jesus.

Where in the world do you get the idea that Mary Magdalene was a whore?

45 posted on 05/18/2006 9:48:28 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: Wonder Warthog
The annulment process is VERY thorough and as legalistic as a normal court proceeding.

Oh yeah, just ask the Kennedy's!

46 posted on 05/18/2006 9:49:56 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: blue-duncan

**I'm glad I'm a Baptist and spiritually inoculated against this threat.**

Many Baptists become converts. Check out some of those links above.

I certainly hope you are not 'Catholic bashing' with that statement.


47 posted on 05/18/2006 9:51:03 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Whaht a wonderful things. Thanks for the thread.

Y'all are welcome to that nutbag!

48 posted on 05/18/2006 9:51:13 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: Salvation
Do you have a problem with the intentions of Christ and Our Father, God in Heaven?

Um, could you try and make some sense next time?

49 posted on 05/18/2006 9:52:21 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: Full Court

OK, so I goofed on the spelling.


50 posted on 05/18/2006 9:54:44 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Full Court

Christ died for all sinners.

Love the sinner, hate the sin.

I think you know what I mean; you're just trying to provoke an argiement -- bait, etc.


51 posted on 05/18/2006 9:56:28 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: blue-duncan; Full Court; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; AlbionGirl; fortheDeclaration; ...
"They told me that the farther you go in Reformation theology, the more you end up in Catholicism and liturgy."

ROTFL!

You're getting veeery sleeepy...

Black is white and white is black. Rome loves the Five Solas of the Reformation. Calvin really adored that eucharist. Luther was just joshin' about justification. And Willilam Tyndale, who was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English against the dictate of the Romanists, was only fooling around when he was confronted by the Biblical ignorance of a particular priest...

"If God spare my life, ere many years pass, I will cause a boy that driveth the plough to know more of the Scriptures than thou dost."

And so he did, by the grace of God alone.

52 posted on 05/18/2006 10:00:35 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Sir_Ed
enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:
God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and the resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us
for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church
may God give you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

Emphasis added.

53 posted on 05/18/2006 10:03:17 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Oops another typo
argiement = argument
54 posted on 05/18/2006 10:05:45 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: blue-duncan; Full Court; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; AlbionGirl; ...
"They told me that the farther you go in Reformation theology, the more you end up in Catholicism and liturgy."

If I were the Catholics, I would NEVER place any of these testimonials out in public. I'm not sure how much you can learn about "Reformation theology" from the "Charismatic Episcopal Church". It says that he enrolled in "Bible College" in New York but it doesn't state the name. Seems the only thing that was a major selling point for the Catholic Church was the fact that Catholics appeared to be more committed to his cause than "evangelicals". Pretty poor reason if you ask me.

However, on the lighter side and just so you can't accuse me of sounding like a sour puss, he does seem to have nice beach front property.

55 posted on 05/18/2006 10:05:47 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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To: marshmallow; Sir_Ed; vladimir998; Eepsy; Cheverus; Wonder Warthog; catholicfreeper; ...
The pro-life movement leads inevitably to Catholicism, I believe.

Unfortunately, that is true.

Still Waiting for Reformation

Protestant pro-life ministries continue to yoke with Roman Catholics in their pro-life ministry events. The influence of the Roman Catholic Church continues to grow in the evangelical world, and Rome continues to make converts of Protestants corrupted by ecumenical ministry. The National Catholic Register's latest edition contains two articles trumpeting the news that Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry is the latest Protestant pro-life activist to join the Roman Catholic Church. In a Register interview, Terry was asked, "When did you first take an interest in the Catholic Church?" His answer is: "It was during my work in Operation Rescue that I first became interested in the Roman Catholic Church." In the spring of 2004, I published a book titled More Than These and subtitled A History of How the Pro-life Movement Has Advanced the Cause of the Roman Catholic Church. The book was not a call for evangelicals to turn a blind eye to unborn child killing; but rather, it was a call for reformation in that sort of ministry work and in every other ecumenical ministry work. And it was a call for an end of the evangelical cover-up of Rome's abominable doctrines. In More Than These, I wrote extensively about the influence of Randall Terry. In summing up my segment on Terry, I wrote this:
"Randall Terry began his career in pro-life ministry as an evangelical Christian. Several years ago, he joined the Charismatic Episcopal Church. I would not be the least bit surprised to see him eventually go all the way 'home to Rome,' based on his appreciation for the Vatican's unwavering stand against abortion. The Protestant, pro-life corrupter of so many Christians has himself been spiritually corrupted through and through because he has loved the unborn more than Christ. When thinking of Randall Terry, how can one not think of 1 Corinthians 10:12: 'Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall'?"
More Than These, page 95

Pastor Ralph Ovadal
56 posted on 05/18/2006 10:05:51 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: HarleyD

ping to 56


57 posted on 05/18/2006 10:10:23 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: Sir_Ed
You wrote: "[Mr friend] believes that forgiveness ONLY comes through a Priest and communion...that if a man sins, and prays for forgivenss, and truly repents, that if he dies before he can see a Priest and confess and ask for forgiveness, then he will go to hell and burn in eternal damnation."

I can see what your friend's problem is: he doesn't know much about Catholicism.

Secondly, he believes Mary ...didn't need salvation"

Again, that's not true. Mary said "He who is mighty has done great things for me." She attributed all of the "great things" in her life to --- in her words--- "God my Savior."

There are two ways to save a person from a pit. One way is to pull them out after they've fallen in; the other way is to intervene to prevent them from falling in to begin with. Our Lord saves most of us the first way; he saved his mother the second way. (The Church calls it "prevenient.")

Why? Think about it: she is his only genetic link to the human race. He received his entire human nature from her. If she had any heritable defect, she would have passed it on to Him. God prevented that. Hence: prevenient grace. God can do that. God is not subject to the laws of time and space.

"Third, he believes that Mary, along with others who have died, can hear [our] prayers ..."

Those who love us --- our believing and God-loving mothers and fathers, relations, neighbors and friends --- intercede for us even in this life. Why would they be less able to do this when they are in the glorious presence of Almighty God?

58 posted on 05/18/2006 10:11:19 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I have come that you might have life, and have it more abundantly." -- Jesus Christ)
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To: HarleyD

**Catholics appeared to be more committed to his cause than "evangelicals". Pretty poor reason if you ask me.**

Could that be because the Catholic Church stood against these eveils of abortion, euthanasia, stem cell research, etc. long before it was popular to do so.

And then we can always go back to the founder of the Chruch, Jesus Christ -- did he support life? Of course, He did!


59 posted on 05/18/2006 10:11:54 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Luther was just joshin' about justification.

Why do you think he kept infant baptism?

60 posted on 05/18/2006 10:13:16 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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