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Revenge of the White Witch: Narnia Star Re-Interprets Lewis' Books as 'Anti-Religious'
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/8/06 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:58:10 PM PDT by wagglebee

SAN FRANCISCO, May 8, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - On the heels of the actor who played the Wizard Gandalf in Lord of the Rings advocating for homosexual marriage (see coverage: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/may/06050409.html), the actress who played the White Witch in the Chronicles of Narnia has suggested that C.S. Lewis' famous book The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is "anti-religious."

Speaking at the 49th San Francisco International Film Festival which concluded last week, Tilda Swinton, the Scottish actress who played the white witch described herself as a "red witch" alluding to her membership in the British Communist Party.

Joking about the state of religion in the United States she said, "Last year, in the process of promoting two fantasy films for different Hollywood studios, I was advised on the proper protocol for talking about religion in America today.  In brief, the directive was, hold your hands high where all can see them, step away from the vehicle and enunciate clearly, nothing to declare."

Mixing commentary on politics and religion Swinton spoke of her character of the white witch saying, "At least we made her whiter than white, the ultimate white supremacist, and we managed to railroad the knee-jerk attempt to make her look like an Arab."

In a recent interview with Netribution in the UK, Swinton suggested that the Narnia books, while admittedly spiritual, are actually "anti-religious".   She said: "I would go so far as to say that not only is this not a religious book, but, if anything, it's actually an anti-religious book in the sense that it is about the very opposite of following a dogma, following a doctrine. It's about being resourceful and self-sufficient and following your own conscience and your own star, which is a very private issue and not anything to do with any set down religion."

Swinton, who worked closely with homosexual film-maker Derek Jarman, and confirming criticisms from faithful C.S. Lewis fans about the film, also noted a subtle departure from the Lewis book in the film, stressing that religion is open to interpretation.  "When Aslan is resurrected - you know, according to the resurrection myth in most standard religious belief systems - when the children ask him what's going on, originally there was the idea that there was a deeper magic that even the witch didn't understand," she said.  "But in fact in our film his answer is that had she interpreted the deep magic differently . . . The idea of interpretation is right there in the heart of the film and belief is in the eye of the beholder, and people can slap on it whatever they want."

Swinton's concept of evil may be expressed as constancy of faith by others.  "I suppose what I think of as evil is sort of anti-human impulses in humans, and doubtlessness is a thing that I think is really problematic, and very much in vogue these days politically," Swinton told Netribution.  "The politically doubtless seem to be being bigged-up and I think that it is anti-humane. So that feels the closest thing that I can think of to a concept of evil. The lack of the capacity to be compassionate, I think."

Steven D. Greydanus, in his review of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe on the Decent Films website, criticized the "many liberties" taken by the producers with the original book themes. He was especially harsh about the film version's undermining of the power of Aslan and elevation of the status of the Witch which contradicted Lewis's most important messages in the book.

Greydanus wrote, "Perhaps the single gravest change to the story is one that greatly empowers the Witch at Aslan’s expense. It is simply the eradication of the whole motif of the Witch’s overt fear of Aslan. This is absolutely crucial to the book’s emphasis on the utter lack of parity between the omnipotent Aslan and the powerful but limited Witch. The whole vision of good and evil at work in the story turns on the fact that the Witch is never even close to being a rival or threat to Aslan, any more than Lucifer to Christ himself."

The Christian film critic further explains that "The filmmakers, perhaps motivated by a misguided dramatic notion of needing the villain to be a credible threat to the hero, eliminate practically every indication of the Witch’s fear of Aslan from the story — in the process jettisoning much of the point Lewis was making about the nature and relationship of good and evil."  

See the Netribution interview:
http://www.netribution.co.uk/2/interviews/actor/tilda_swinto...

See Greydanus's full review of the The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
http://decentfilms.com/sections/reviews/2641



TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: burnheratthestake; christianity; chroniclesofnarnia; cslewis; hollywood; narnia; secularism; tildaswinton
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To: Claud

She's also described by Uncle Andrew as a 'Dem fine woman.


41 posted on 05/09/2006 6:33:09 PM PDT by Martin Tell
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To: wagglebee

Fortunately her character was killed off. They can find plenty other good actresses to fill the part of the green witch (silver chair).


43 posted on 05/11/2006 3:47:41 PM PDT by Godzilla (If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Thanks for the reminder about the DVD extras. I haven't gotten to them yet.


44 posted on 05/11/2006 4:41:47 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: wagglebee
Tilda Swinton, the Scottish actress who played the white witch described herself as a "red witch" alluding to her membership in the British Communist Party.

I assume she won't be nominated for any acting in the role then.

45 posted on 05/11/2006 4:42:42 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
the Narnia DVD extras; how has everyone else found them?

I loved watching the extras. One thing I was really struck by was how much Edmund grew and changed in looks. The little girl who plays Lucy (Georgie?) has the same type of personality that she has on the screen. Very cute. It was neat to see how they filmed the water scenes.

46 posted on 05/11/2006 5:58:45 PM PDT by Jessarah
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To: wagglebee

McKellan(Gandalf) is a liberal. What is this world coming to? He seemed really cool. Oh, well. Soon we'll find out that the guy who played Jesus in the Passion is a commie.


47 posted on 05/11/2006 6:40:38 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: onja; SuziQ; xzins; P-Marlowe; Lil'freeper; JenB
McKellan(Gandalf) is a liberal. What is this world coming to? He seemed really cool. Oh, well. Soon we'll find out that the guy who played Jesus in the Passion is a commie.

McKelland is also gay. But he's an actor and did a superb job of playing Gandalf. Swinton was also excellent as the White Witch.

As for James Caviezel who played Jesus in The Passion of the Christ here are his own words in a Newsweek nterview:

You're Catholic. Did playing Christ deepen your faith?
I love him more than I ever knew possible. I love him more than my wife, my family. There were times when I was up there [on the cross], and I could barely speak. Continual hypothermia is so excruciating. I connected to a place I could have never, ever gone. I don't want people to see me. All I want them to see is Jesus Christ.

Regardless, they're all actors. It's not supposed to be them we see on the screen. If they're good actors, we won't notice/care if they're off screen idiots.

48 posted on 05/11/2006 6:56:28 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Actors don't have to be intellectuals: All they have to do is repeat someone else's words.


49 posted on 05/11/2006 7:10:18 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
If they're good actors, we won't notice/care if they're off screen idiots.

But we can sure laugh at their STOOPIDITY! ;o)

50 posted on 05/11/2006 7:16:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: wagglebee

So, Tilda, will you be joking about the state of religion in, say, Iran? What might be the advice you've received about commentary towards Islam? Are there any Muslim mater race people you might want to speak about? Thought not, you coward.


51 posted on 05/11/2006 7:53:32 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: wagglebee
I can see how the secularists would miss the Christian symbolism in "The Lord of the Rings" books, but not Narnia.

I am not sure what you mean by symbolism. If you mean a one-to-one correspondence between an image in the story and a meaning, then that is definitely not what Tolkien wrote, nor Lewis. Tolkien wrote mythology, or as he liked to call it, faerie.

As he says in the foreword of The Fellowship of the Ring

I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history, true and feigned, with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse 'applicability' with 'allegory'; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.

In his review of The Lord of the Rings for the Times, Lewis wrote:

What shows that we are reading myth, not allegory, is that there are no pointers to a specifically theological, or political, or psychological application. A myth points, for each reader, to the realm he lives in most. It is a master key; use it on what door you like.

Lewis and Tolkien shared much in common, including their opinions on fairy-stories. That some commie grade-B actress can interpret Lewis's mythology as anti-religious shows how successful Lewis was in creating faerie. And what better person to play the White Whitch than an atheist. That role required no acting on her part.

52 posted on 05/11/2006 7:54:43 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: wagglebee
"To say that the Narnia books are anything other than Christian is absurd."

While I agree with you that Lewis was trying to convey Christian ideas through fiction, I would like to make a slight distinction....A person can only come to the saving power of Jesus through the Word (Bible).

Rom 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

I took my three kids to LWW and they all enjoyed it. It provided a good opportunity to explain to my 8 year old about Jesus' substitutional death for us. However, without guidance from the Bible, and ultimately reading from the Bible, no one will "get saved" through watching LWW.

Sincerely
53 posted on 05/11/2006 8:26:54 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: wagglebee

"Steven D. Greydanus, in his review of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe on the Decent Films website, criticized the "many liberties" taken by the producers with the original book themes. He was especially harsh about the film version's undermining of the power of Aslan and elevation of the status of the Witch which contradicted Lewis's most important messages in the book.

Greydanus wrote, "Perhaps the single gravest change to the story is one that greatly empowers the Witch at Aslan’s expense. It is simply the eradication of the whole motif of the Witch’s overt fear of Aslan. This is absolutely crucial to the book’s emphasis on the utter lack of parity between the omnipotent Aslan and the powerful but limited Witch. The whole vision of good and evil at work in the story turns on the fact that the Witch is never even close to being a rival or threat to Aslan, any more than Lucifer to Christ himself."

The Christian film critic further explains that "The filmmakers, perhaps motivated by a misguided dramatic notion of needing the villain to be a credible threat to the hero, eliminate practically every indication of the Witch’s fear of Aslan from the story — in the process jettisoning much of the point Lewis was making about the nature and relationship of good and evil.""

This review is totally wrong.

The film does nothing of the sort. The film is perfectly loyal to the book. She IS a credible threat in the book...she plunges the land into perpetual winter, after all. It's not like there is ever any real doubt who is going to win. Even so, she does kill Aslan after all and he does look pathetic in the book as he is led to the stone table.

In the film, his power is apparent, especially in that scene where he comes out of the tent for the first time and all the Narnians - and the children - are virtually compelled to their knees.

This guy doing the Decent Films review must be looking for a problem. Either that, or he neither watched the film nor read the book. What a moron.


54 posted on 05/11/2006 8:29:01 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Unfortunately, there are plenty of atheist FReepers who insist that G-d isn't necessary for an objective, external moral code, though they never get around to telling you where it comes from.

Perhaps. But I try to give them their due. But I tend to agree it is impossible for an atheist to be "good" except as an option when they do a cost/benefit analysis.

In the absence of a general moral milieu, "good" is just something you do to make you feel good.

55 posted on 05/11/2006 8:37:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: wagglebee
Speaking at the 49th San Francisco International Film Festival which concluded last week, Tilda Swinton, the Scottish actress who played the white witch described herself as a "red witch" alluding to her membership in the British Communist Party.

So that's how she was able to act so cold, cruel, heartless and manipulative in the role.

56 posted on 05/11/2006 9:06:31 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: wagglebee

Wasn't it that actress who was originally a porn star or some other similar occupation?


57 posted on 05/11/2006 10:03:59 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: TheBattman

How could they say that the Witch was not afraid of Aslan in the movie? At the first mention of his name by Edmund you could see the look in her eyes as she looks toward the dwarf. And how about when Aslan growls at her and she sits quickly down like in the book? She was clearly in fear of him and the only thing protecting her was her "claim" on the traitor Edmund.


58 posted on 05/12/2006 7:25:43 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (---an American in Maimi..............)
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To: wagglebee
Derek Jarman has no connection to the Narnia movie. It is either disingenuous or very careless for this association to be mentioned as it is. Tilda Swinton worked with him on Edward 2 about 15 years ago. That has nothing to do with this movie as far as I know.
59 posted on 05/12/2006 7:36:38 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

That's messed up. I've always thought he was cool. I'll just try to remember him as Gandalf.


60 posted on 05/12/2006 2:48:09 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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