Posted on 03/24/2006 6:06:40 AM PST by marshmallow
It's a miracle
The Catholic Church carefully investigates such claims and makes the findings publicly known.
Not every plastic-haired, TV shyster is so diligent.
That's kind of a relief. The story wasn't pretty...
Who... What... Huh???
I'm confused.
Liberal women can do that in 2 weeks, by not shaving their underarms. No biggie.
Dallas bump
The article seemed clear to me. Some people thought a Communion Host had exhibited signs of a miraculous nature (appearing to be blood and flesh). The Church had it tested and it was just mold. End of story.
SD
I am curious. What would be the proper way to dispose of the host in this instance. If there is mold on it does the mold have to be removed and then the host again put in water to dissolve it. Or would the mold mean the host is now regarded as unconsecrated and can be disposed of by ordinary means. Is there anything in Canon law that says if a vomited host is no longer considered consencrated?
Or maybe this situation has never happened before and no one knows.
If the Host is still discernable as being a Host, it would need to be treated as sacred. Since the normal method of dissolving in water (followed by disposal of the water directly into the ground through a special sink) does not seem to have worked, burial would be proper.
Is there anything in Canon law that says if a vomited host is no longer considered consencrated?
No, or they wouldn't have gotten into this in the first place, would they have? Since it was spit up and still discernable (as opposed to being digested and indistingushable from normal stomach contents) was how they got into this in the first place.
Or maybe this situation has never happened before and no one knows.
The Church has been around a while. Hardly anything happens for the first time.
SD
I'm certain that there have been cases like this where reddish mold has been mistaken for flesh. This just happened not too long ago somewhere else, (a molded Host anyway, not the rest of the story).
I think at this point they could just break it up and pour it into the Sacrarium, but I don't know the official procedure.
I am glad they announced the results of the tests so quickly.
The article seemed clear to me. Some people thought a Communion Host had exhibited signs of a miraculous nature (appearing to be blood and flesh). The Church had it tested and it was just mold.
What a surprise - The wafer was consecrated, but transubstantiation didn't take place. It's still a wafer.
What do you think "transubstantiation" means? What does the doctrine teach us about the observable aspects (i.e. the apearances) of the communion elements?
SD
Thanks for your answer. A few years ago I read a book about Eucharistic Miracles by Joan Cruz. I know that such miracles do happen, especially in times when people need to be drawn back to the faith. So considering the times we live in I was quite willing to accept such a miracle occuring in Dallas. But since we have a natural explanation I will pray that God use even this pseudo Miracle to proclaim the Truth of our Faith.
It teaches us that there are a lot of doctrines in the Catholic Church that are just... not... biblical.
I do find it interesting that so many Catholics are willing to accept the accidents and appearances as fact in regard to the communion, but when it comes to believing that the Earth was created in 6 days, they scoff at the creationist "whackjobs" who actually believe that "despite all appearances to the contrary" that God really did create the heavens and the earth in 6 days.
On the one hand they deny all natural observations to the contrary and insist that what they are consuming is the "literal" flesh and blood of Jesus Christ, yet they scoff at anyone who takes Genesis literally and actually believes that the earth is much younger than it appears.
If "accidents and appearances" can explain the eucharist, then why can't it explain the creation?
It teaches us that there are a lot of doctrines in the Catholic Church that are just... not... biblical.
Yes, thank you for your comments, but I was particularly interested in Mr. Murphy's apparent confusion about what the doctrine states and what conclusions we can draw from it. If you have anything to add in this area, feel free.
SD
Naw, the miracle was Brother Dominic producing those 500 copies of illuminated manuscripts. (Hoo boy, I just told everyone how old I am.)
Everytime I read something about, I taste a little bit of what I had for breakfast again.
What exactly do you think transubstantiation is? What part of this story do you think tends to establish your claim that transubstatiation did not take place?
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