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To: The Lumster

"After John Paul died on April 2, the woman's superior-general asked all the other sisters in their community in France to pray to the late pope to intervene to help the woman. On June 2, she was cured, Oder said.

Sounds to me like they were praying for the pope to intervene. And that my friend is idolatry because

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;1Tim 2:5"

OK then fair is fair....the next time you or a loved one are injured or sick, the sick person must DIRECTLY appeal to God on their own. They MUST NOT ask YOU to pray for them. You must not ask anyone else to pray for you.

good enough?


64 posted on 03/14/2006 1:30:53 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
the sick person must DIRECTLY appeal to God on their own. They MUST NOT ask YOU to pray for them. You must not ask anyone else to pray for you.

Wrong again -

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. James 5:14-15

This of course presumes that the elders are actually living - as opposed to asking a dead pope to "intervene".

It would help if you catholics would actually open a bible once in a while instead of depending on your apostate leaders to tell you what to believe.
74 posted on 03/14/2006 1:37:36 PM PST by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: Scotswife
...OK then fair is fair....the next time you or a loved one are injured or sick, the sick person must DIRECTLY appeal to God on their own. They MUST NOT ask YOU to pray for them. You must not ask anyone else to pray for you.

Nice try. Do you REALLY think that's what it means or are you trying to be slick here?

76 posted on 03/14/2006 1:40:00 PM PST by sangoo
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To: Scotswife; The Lumster
Some people do not believe in the Communion of Saints. I guess if they can not see them anymore there is no sense talking to them. In some ways I wonder if such people believe in an afterlife at all.

You know Christ dealt with this sort in His day as well.
85 posted on 03/14/2006 1:45:20 PM PST by iluvlucy
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To: Scotswife

Do you really not see the difference in "praying to" and "praying for"?

I pray to Jesus for my family, friends, enemies, sometimes. I don't pray to Mary or any Pope or any other person or being for them to pray to Jesus for me. What is the point in having a personal relationship with Christ, if you have to go through another person to get to him?

He is MY savior, not because of something I or someone else did, but just because he loves me.


103 posted on 03/14/2006 1:59:38 PM PST by CherylBower
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