[The Lumster]

the sick person must DIRECTLY appeal to God on their own. They MUST NOT ask YOU to pray for them. You must not ask anyone else to pray for you.

Wrong again -

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. James 5:14-15

This of course presumes that the elders are actually living - as opposed to asking a dead pope to "intervene".

It would help if you catholics would actually open a bible once in a while instead of depending on your apostate leaders to tell you what to believe.

[babaloo]

You are a jerk. Find a different thread.

[kstewskis]

This of course presumes that the elders are actually living - as opposed to asking a dead pope to "intervene".

Do you not believe that when one dies, they go to heaven? Are their souls not "alive in Christ?"

Do you not believe that those in heaven are not capable of praying for you?

Just curious, not looking to pick a fight.

[onyx]

It would help if you catholics would actually open a bible once in a while instead of depending on your apostate leaders to tell you what to believe.




Don't count on staying on this thread too much longer.

[frogjerk]

It would help if you catholics would actually open a bible once in a while instead of depending on your apostate leaders to tell you what to believe.

Question: Where did your Bible come from? Who compiled it? Also, where in the Bible does it say sola scriptura?

[Petronski]

It would help if you catholics would actually open a bible once in a while instead of depending on your apostate leaders to tell you what to believe.

You just beam with love, don't you?

[Scotswife]

"This of course presumes that the elders are actually living - as opposed to asking a dead pope to "intervene".

It would help if you catholics would actually open a bible once in a while instead of depending on your apostate leaders to tell you what to believe."

Like I said in another post...this isn't about idolatry but about whether or not souls in heaven can still intercede for others.
Your nasty tone tells me you are more concerned with trash talking a catholic than with any real dialogue.

I have managed to crack a bible open once or twice.
It must be one of those times I managed to read Revelations 5 and saw souls in heaven who were aware of earthly events and appealing to God.
Some people might consider that to be "intercession"

So...by your own definition, if a sick person asks a neighbor (who they may think has been given the gift of healing) for prayer..that person is an idoloter because that person is not an elder at the Church.
Furthermore - the sick person is not appealing directly to God, but to a mere human and asking them to mediate.

So..only elders can pray for people...and only when their physical bodies are alive.
Is that right?