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Lenten “Listening”: Last “Rights” for Neurology (must read)
Clueless Christian ^ | 3/11/2006 | Shari deSilva, MD

Posted on 03/11/2006 6:09:56 PM PST by sionnsar

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To: Iwo Jima

Thanks for the post, Iwo Jima. Very sad story, indeed.

IF the doctors knew she had TN then they KNEW that morphine would not kill the pain. It takes a different kind of medication (neurontin, tegretol, lyrica). I know because at one time I went through more morphine and every other pain killer than I care to think about and nothing would touch the pain.

It took me telling my doctor that I would not go through another episode of the sort I had that time and that I would end the matter myself if it came to it. That jogged his memory of a patient 10 years before who had said the same thing and the doctor was finally able to correctly diagnose TN. I had gone back to him after seeing every so-called specialist around. NONE did a thing except rob me blind and then say, "Oh, well, we don't know what it could be. See ya." LITERALLY.

That poor, poor woman. Of course she couldn't eat or drink and they knew that, too, if they knew she had TN.

Frightening world with some so cold-hearted in charge of the care of those in need. I pray God to keep the good ones strong and never let them lose their sense of compassion.

The restraining for the oxygen device. I don't even want to imagine. It would have a been a kind thing if while they had all the morphine out, and they weren't interested in saving her anyway (as it sounds to me), if they'd given her enough to pass on and save her from their torture. I've got a lot words for people like them; unfortunately, FR won't let me post them.


61 posted on 03/13/2006 4:34:08 PM PST by Birmingham Rain
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To: redgolum
Hitler started with the terminally ill and mentally ill. After the society got used to killing "life undeserving of life", going after Jews and political dissenters wasn't that big of a step.

Yes, the first executed were the "useless eaters." Laws restricting the rights of Jews were in place at the time, though T4 didn't necessarily include them. Nazi euphemisms--like "charitable transport," ambulances that transported disabled children to Hadamar, a killing center--have their parallel in the right-to-kill/right-to-die movements of today.



(Hadamar Cemetery, 1945)
62 posted on 03/13/2006 5:09:49 PM PST by Das Outsider
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To: Birmingham Rain
Thanks for the reply. I didn't want to alarm you,, but it sounds like you already know how bad things can get. You will know more about TN than any doctor who treats you, but if you can find one who will listen to you and be guided by your experience, that may be the best you can expect.

Take care.
63 posted on 03/13/2006 7:14:44 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("An election is an advanced auction of stolen goods.")
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To: cgk

I am honored to be on the MS ping. It helps to know that there are others who are interested in the same things I am. Thank you.


64 posted on 03/13/2006 9:49:03 PM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: baa39

FANTASTIC post. Thank you very much :)


65 posted on 03/13/2006 10:22:48 PM PST by cgk (Happy Birthday to FReeper WhistlingPasttheGraveyard!)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

Thank you! I don't mind saying I am honored to keep it! I wasn't sure at first if there would be interest in it, but I've added half a dozen new members in the last day alone. Not all have MS or know someone with MS - but that's what I also like about it. :)


66 posted on 03/13/2006 10:25:42 PM PST by cgk (Happy Birthday to FReeper WhistlingPasttheGraveyard!)
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To: traviskicks

despite the fact that many children with Down’s syndrome have normal intelligence.
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Normal is a pretty broad term. You can be pretty concrete and still be normal.


67 posted on 03/16/2006 4:58:34 AM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: redgolum

The "somewhere else" is important. President Adams
noted that there were some borrowings from the American
Independence movers by the French Revolutionaries (there's
a famous quote from him I can't quite recall, "what mischief
have I done" or something like that) Edmund Burke (the
great anti-Jacobin orator) in England noted the French
copied certain features of British Parliamentarian, again
with some changes. Again, I can't recall the quote or
source off-hand. Read Friedrich Gentz's The French and
American Revolutions Compared (approx. title) which is a
very short book (there was a Regnery paperback) which notes
the differences between the French and Americans. It's more
properly called the "American War of Independence" of course.
The founders, its leaders were definitely not relativists or
secularists. The French leftists were.


68 posted on 04/12/2006 1:08:47 PM PDT by cycjec (doesn't teach or inspire or compel them to think things throughu)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The UK seems to be about as bad as the USA, though.


69 posted on 04/12/2006 1:21:36 PM PDT by cycjec (doesn't teach or inspire or compel them to think things throughu)
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To: raybbr
This has nothing to do with Hitler. It's capitalism run amok. Weigh the cost vs. the benefit and that's where this comes from.

It's not capitalism, it is socialism that is at the root of the danger. When the government steps in to benevolently pay for your medical care, eventually the government get to decide who lives and who dies.

70 posted on 04/12/2006 2:17:49 PM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: cycjec
The UK is not, functionally, a monarchy.

Elizabeth is a nice enough lady, I suppose, although her kids are a bit ... problematic. But what, exactly, does she (or they) do?

71 posted on 04/13/2006 8:47:24 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Chickensoup; traviskicks

Some Downs' Syndrome people are quite competent
to dicate and track letters regarding their treatment
and care, and to their legislators. (One of my mother's
clients, for example), and a letter I read in a book,
long since borrowed away, _ Having Your Baby When Others
Say No _ One quote from that letter " we can do a lot
and are plenty smart."


72 posted on 04/15/2006 6:08:55 PM PDT by cycjec (doesn't teach or inspire or compel them to think things throughu)
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