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Indult Scorecard, Round Three (Updated List of Dioceses & Corned Beef Friday)
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| March 4, 2006
| Rocco Palmo
Posted on 03/04/2006 12:17:46 PM PST by NYer
The responses just keep pouring in. All thanks to everyone for being so kind and helpful....
As the list is growing long, I'm just going to name the precincts which are reporting, and whatever conditions have been placed upon the respective indults (and if you're late to the party, you can find Round One and Round Two at the links).
The Corned Beef Indult for the Traditional Celebration of St. Paddy's Day has been conceded in the (arch)dioceses of:
- Springfield in Illinois -- provided "one other day is observed as a day of abstinence in its place."
- Jefferson City -- with a "[reminder] to do some extra work of penance or charity in place of abstaining from meat on St. Patrick's Day."
- Orlando -- with the choice of one of three mandatory alternatives for those who indult: "perform some other penitential act; perform an act of charity; abstain from meat on another day... as soon as possible."
- Orange -- those who indult must abstain on another day of that week.
- Kansas City in Kansas -- those who indult "asked" to abstain on another day of that week.
- Portland in Oregon -- pure dispensation, no strings attached.... Release also notes that "The Archdiocesan Lenten Ember Day is on March 22, 2006. Catholics of the Archdiocese are asked to fast and abstain voluntarily on that day. The intention of the Ember Day is for the healing of victims of child sexual abuse and their reconciliation with the Church." Interesting....
- Altoona-Johnstown -- provided the faithful "pray for vocations to St. Patrick or Sts. Cyril & Methodius." Interesting again....
- Wilmington -- seemingly no strings attached
A few of the places I'm waiting to hear from: Pittsburgh, the dioceses of Connecticut and Massachusetts (extant Boston), Savannah, Atlanta, Charleston, Miami (for John Timoney's sake) -- and, for the love of God, Fort Wayne-South Bend!
One place I have heard from is Omaha. Apparently, Archbishop Elden Curtiss is not indulting the Nebraska Irish -- and those of us who love them. The chancery, I'm told, is getting more than just an earful.
Rightfully so, I say; it's not as if 17 March is Saturnalia or anything.
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KEYWORDS: catholic; cornedbeef; indult; lent; stpatricksday
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To: Coleus; sitetest
Thanks for the updates. The RC Diocese of Albany has also granted a dispensation - "Since this feast is one in which many people celebrate the faith and heritage of the Irish people .... (blah, blah, blah)"
I nearly choked when I read: 'celebrate the faith' .... sure they do ... their faith in Irish stout. The bishop did not suggest any other form of penance be substituted. /sigh/
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03/14/2006 6:43:23 PM PST
by
NYer
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
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posted on
03/15/2006 10:42:06 AM PST
by
Coleus
(What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
To: NYer
just heard on the news,
The Dioceses of: NY, Metuchen, Paterson and Newark have granted dispensation.
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03/15/2006 3:34:54 PM PST
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Coleus
(What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
To: Coleus
This actually made the news!! Lol ... perhaps it's a new tactic to invite catholics back to Holy Mother Church.
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03/15/2006 6:23:43 PM PST
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NYer
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To: NYer
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03/15/2006 7:33:12 PM PST
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Coleus
(What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
To: NYer
what is the problem with dispensations.
I remembering hearing stories about Cardinal Spellman, pre Vatican II, giving dispensation for st. Patrick's day and not on St. Joseph's day because it was primarily celebrated by Italians.
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03/16/2006 1:21:44 PM PST
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Coleus
(What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
To: Coleus
Nothing wrong with dispensations. However, since VCII, the majority of catholics consider themselves permanently 'dispensated' from any form of self denial. That leaves only the 7 Fridays in Lent, minus St. Patrick's day - because it is a 'religious' holiday.
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03/16/2006 1:49:47 PM PST
by
NYer
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To: JohnRoss; Coleus; sitetest; RKBA Democrat
Lent in the Roman Catholic Church has become a bit of a joke. For all practical purposes, it has been abolished as a time of fasting Couldn't agree more. Perhaps this letter to The Evangelist, the newspaper of the RC Diocese of Albany (NY) expresses it best.
* * * * *
"As I read last week's issue of The Evangelist, I finally, after nearly 60 years, come to understand the teachings of the Church as applied in the Albany Diocese.
Any rule or "any ancient and revered tradition" of the Church can be dispensed with, as long as you have a good rationalization for doing so.
On page two, the Pope explains, "Lenten fast is not a burden and should be experienced as an expression of faith." Turn to page seven and the Bishop tells us that because St. Patrick's Day falls on a Friday, he has rationalized that abstaining from eating meat that day would be too much of a burden, so he has dispensed Catholics from the "ancient and revered tradition of abstaining."
The lesson: If it is too hard or too much of a burden to keep the laws and "ancient teachings of the Church," all I have to do is rationalize and it is all right to do.
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03/16/2006 4:11:47 PM PST
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NYer
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