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To: Full Court; SoothingDave
The scriptures are plain and decided about the fact that Jesus had brothers and sisters.

"Is not this the carpenter's son?," the Jews asked, "is not his mother called Mary? And his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are thy not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?" (Matt. 13: 55, 56).

It is evident that the Greek adelphos (brothers/sisters) is used in the case of Jesus' brothers and sisters in the flesh. And before you start there is also no evidence or reason to say that these were Joseph's children by a previous marriage.

The main reason there is controversy over this matter is because of the doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary.

BigMack

1,968 posted on 02/27/2006 10:05:20 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Never under estimate the power of stupid people in a large group:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; SoothingDave; wmfights; Cronos; annalex; OLD REGGIE; Jaded

Humor Break


May 2005

Dear Dr. Adams: I read with great interest your recent article "Red Headed Woodpeckers." Tell me Dr., how come you kill deer and watch birds? Why don't you put down your rifle and watch them both?

Raymond


Hi Raymond. That's a good question, with a simple answer. I like the taste of roasted venison, but not roasted woodpecker. Let me know if I can be of further assistance, Ray.


Mike Adams


Funny guy. Tell me this, Dr. Smarta**, have you EVER given money to a panhandler?


Raymond


No, Raymond, I haven't. What's your point?

Mike Adams


My point is that if you feed birds and not the homeless, you are (sic) pompous, hypocritical a**. Obviously, you value the birds more than the homeless.

Raymond


I don't have a problem with that, Raymond. The birds don't steal my hubcaps and crack dealers don't accept seeds.

Mike Adams


1,969 posted on 02/27/2006 10:09:15 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
"The main reason there is controversy over this matter is because of the doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary."
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Is it possible that if Roman Catholic's recognized that the doctrine of perpetual virginity was wrong they might have to recognize their doctrines about her Ascension and ability to amplify prayers for consideration by the LORD could be wrong too. It could explain why there is such an obstinate fight over this.
1,971 posted on 02/27/2006 10:12:36 AM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or get out of the Way!)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
It is evident that the Greek adelphos (brothers/sisters) is used in the case of Jesus' brothers and sisters in the flesh.

You're sure that adelphos could never be used for step-brothers/half-brothers?

And before you start there is also no evidence or reason to say that these were Joseph's children by a previous marriage.

There's no evidence to say they were not either.

Name one person in Scripture who is a child of Mary. Just one.

SD

1,974 posted on 02/27/2006 10:15:22 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
It is evident that the Greek adelphos (brothers/sisters) is used in the case of Jesus' brothers and sisters in the flesh. And before you start there is also no evidence or reason to say that these were Joseph's children by a previous marriage.

There is no evidence one way or the other from Biblical tracts.
2,149 posted on 02/27/2006 9:59:49 PM PST by Cronos (Remember 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic: Sola Scriptura leads to solo scriptura.)
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