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To: Titanites
You posted it once again without ever responding to 1633

Mary and Joseph had sex and had other children. The Bible is clear on that. I don't need to respond to a post that uses a text I do not believe in or a post that tries to make the Bible untrue.

The Bible is true, whether you believe it or not.

Matthew 1:24  Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25  And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Every time the phrase "knew her" is used it is talking about sexual relations.

God is clear here, and there is no room for anyone to cast doubt upon the Word of God unless they are an enemy of Christ.

1,837 posted on 02/26/2006 10:06:01 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Full Court; NYer
I don't need to respond to a post that uses a text I do not believe in or a post that tries to make the Bible untrue.

It doesn't make the Bible untrue. What you are afraid of is that is makes your solo scriptura interpretation of scripture untrue. That you are afraid to discuss it is all we need to know.

The Bible is true, whether you believe it or not.

Yes, the Bible is true. It is your solo scriptura interpretation of it that isn't, which is what we don't believe.

Every time the phrase "knew her" is used it is talking about sexual relations.

Yes, it does; nobody has ever disagreed with this. It's the word till that was under discussion. You've gone this long and didn't know that? You could have at least looked at post 1633 to know that. Maybe if you actually read what's posted to you, a lot of misunderstanding could be avoided.

There's not much else to say to you, pope Full Court, since you are stuck on solo scriptura and refuse to discuss.

NYer - I hope you don't mind but your phrase is a jewel and I'd like to borrow it for a while to use as my new tag line.

1,847 posted on 02/26/2006 10:35:13 AM PST by Titanites (Sola scriptura leads to solo scriptura, both are man-made traditions)
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To: Full Court
I don't need to respond to a post that uses a text I do not believe in or a post that tries to make the Bible untrue.

In other words, you're sticking with the Bible in plain English and refuse to examine what it means when it is "translated" into Greek?

Is there any possiblity whatsoever, in your own understanding of your own understanding, that you could be mistaken? Or have you reached fallibility in this area based upon the plain English meaning of words?

Can your mind perceive the distinction between what you think a passage means and what the author of the passage actually meant to convey?

What harm is done to your faith if the "brothers" of Jesus are in fact not children of Mary, but are his kin by other measures? Does it scare you to admit that others may be right?

SD

1,865 posted on 02/26/2006 1:17:50 PM PST by SoothingDave
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