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To: wmfights

What happens to Protestants when they back slide? What happens to people who are "born again" and quit?


There's also purgatory. While not mentioned by name, it is similar to the OT Sheol. The threshing floor, the refiners fire that Paul talks about.

Ephesians and James both talk about the fact that we are made for works because of God, that is obedience.


1,241 posted on 02/21/2006 6:37:06 PM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: Jaded
What happens to ProtestantsBelievers when they back slide? What happens to people who are "born again" and quit?

2 Peter 2:20 For if they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ (they were saved by trusting Christ and the Cross), they are again entangled therein, and overcome (proclaims the fact that if the Believer ceases to place his Faith and trust in what Jesus did at the Cross, that entanglement in the pollutions of the world will once again become a fact; it cannot be otherwise), the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of Righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the Holy Commandment delivered unto them.

2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true Proverb [Proverb 26:11], The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. (this completely refutes the Unscriptural Doctrine of Unconditional Security, and gives the reason...a departure from Christ and the Cross.)

Jesus Speaks...

Luke 11:23 He who is not with Me is against Me (presents the fact that there is no neutrality with Christ): and he who gathers not with Me scatters (everything is either of the Devil or of Christ, there is no middle ground)

Luke 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man (concerns the efforts of man, whatever they may be, to save himself other than by Christ and Him Crucified), he walks through dry places (waterless, out of the body), seeking rest (concerns the "unclean spirit" which has gone out); and finding none, he says, I will return unto my house whence I came out (unless Christ affects the work, whatever it might be, it is not truly affected)

Luke 11:25 And when he (the evil spirit) comes, he finds it swept and garnished (means it was filled with that other than Christ)

Luke 11:26 Then goes he, (the evil spirit), and takes to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself (concerns the reoccupation by demon spirits) and they enter in, and dwell there (proving that most of the world is controlled by demon spirits): and the last state of that man is worse that the first (this was the state of Israel after they had rejected Christ, which ultimately led to their total destruction)

1,254 posted on 02/21/2006 7:54:00 PM PST by Clay+Iron_Times (The feet of the statue and the latter days of the church age)
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To: Jaded
What happens to Protestants when they back slide? What happens to people who are "born again" and quit?


1,255 posted on 02/21/2006 7:54:14 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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What happens to Protestants when they back slide? What happens to people who are "born again" and quit?


1,256 posted on 02/21/2006 7:55:36 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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To: Jaded

"There's also purgatory. While not mentioned by name, it is similar to the OT Sheol. The threshing floor, the refiners fire that Paul talks about.

Ephesians and James both talk about the fact that we are made for works because of God, that is obedience."
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Yours is such a "works" based faith. You can be saved, but you can lose that salvation if you don't do the "works" that your church dictates and you still go to purgatory to work off sin after you die.

My readings of SCRIPTURE differ in that once the HOLY SPIRIT dwells in you the HOLY SPIRIT will not abandon you. The works you do after your saved are from a desire to please our LORD JESUS CHRIST, not because they buy you anything.

IMHO, our LORD JESUS CHRIST did not come to sacrifice himself for us to then make it so complicated that a sinner couldn't have the blessed assurance of KNOWING that they are one of the elect and are held in his hand no matter what. Your "works" based salvation leaves you NEVER KNOWING for sure if you are saved or not. Due to this I pray for you that you may come to know the PEACE of being with the LORD ALWAYS, no matter what mistakes you make.


1,259 posted on 02/21/2006 8:12:35 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get out of the Way!)
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