Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer
That's what I thought.
You should because it's the same question I asked in 1638.
You're like the guy who was convinced he was dead. No matter what anyone said he wouldn't believe he was alive. Finally one day somebody pricked him with a pin in the arem and he bled. The guy then said "Good Lord, dead men bleed after all".
arm not arem
It was better with arem.
God uses the word cousin when He means cousin.
Gen 14:12And they took Lot, Abram's brother's son, who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed.
13And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.
14And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan.
So God could have said Lot was Abram's nephew, but used "brother" because God was in error when He inspired this Scripture?
Why do you even pretend to be engaging in a reasoned debate, why the farce that you are a Biblical defender when you brazenly ignore Scripture when it is posted to you.
Dave, your soul is in great peril.
I'll take that under advisement. Just as soon as you address the arguments presented in 1348, and 1602. Why do you shrink from discussing the Bible?
SD
Hey II, it is the Sola Scriptura people who have to prove their claims from Scripture. We can (and have, multiple times) make the argument that the text allows our interpretation.
SD
Me:The Bible says Joseph knew her in the sexual sense
You:No, it does not. You've been asked to show where this is stated in scripture, but you can't because it's not there.
I have posted it time and time again. But you would rather not believe it.
Matthew 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
let me repeat myself to you once again. I did not say that women are owned by men. I said that the woman was created for the man.
I posted Scripture to back up my contention.
Woman was created FOR man. Eve was created to HELP Adam.
Not the other way around.
Nothing you posted since has changed that or can change that fact.
My objection to you making false claims about what I originally said remains.
All Scripture is given by God, that's the point, whether you like it or not.
That is a lie from the pit of Hell.
1 Corinthians 2:9
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard,
neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit:
for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Regarding both Matthew 1:25 and 2 Timothy 3:16, I showed you what the scripture says and does not say. Yes, it is from God.
This from the guy who would be perfectly fine if one of the Catholic theories regarding Jesus' brothers and sisters (bretheren) turned out to be true that they were his cousins.
What do you care about the text anyway? Delving into the area of sola scriptura in an attempt to disprove a protestant sola scriptura contention? I would assume and have heard you argue in the past that your tradition is enough.
By the way, I've never seen you post at 8:30 in the evening. :-)
If you do not believe that the Bible is the Word of God then we have no common ground to discuss issue from.
I have studied the history of the Catholic church and her actions, so I know that there is no chance at all that she is a correct body of authority.
The Word of God however is. Yet you reject it.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful,
and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit,
and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing,
and hearing by the word of God.
John 12:48
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words,
hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken,
the same shall judge him in the last day.
I was speaking of after the birth of Jesus.
Matthew 12:46
¶While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Yes, absolutely. Because God says that we may know. It isn't "you might be able to know."
Hebrews 10:7 ¶Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Where have all the Protestants gone?
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We went to church, we studied the SCRIPTURES, we prayed and meditated.
We did not resist the HOLY SPIRIT in guiding us and convicting us in our sin.
We did NOT give a magesterium (made up of weak and fallible human beings) the power to determine how SCRIPTURE should be interpreted.
We constantly check to see that what our preachers are saying is SCRIPTURAL.
Full Court: I love your posts and tenacity in the face of blind opposition.
GOD BLESS
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