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To: InterestedQuestioner; Jaded; SoothingDave; Cronos; annalex; Conservative til I die; OLD REGGIE
Full Court, the person using the word here is not God, it's the translator.

If you do not believe that the Bible is the Word of God then we have no common ground to discuss issue from.

I have studied the history of the Catholic church and her actions, so I know that there is no chance at all that she is a correct body of authority.

The Word of God however is. Yet you reject it.

Hebrews 4:12  
For the word of God is quick, and powerful,
and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit,
and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Romans 10:17  
So then faith cometh by hearing,
and hearing by the word of God.

John 12:48  
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words,
hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken,
the same shall judge him in the last day.

1,656 posted on 02/25/2006 8:59:08 AM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Full Court; InterestedQuestioner; SoothingDave; Cronos; annalex; Conservative til I die; ...

It really does come down to the translation of the Bible. You do yourself a tremendous disservice by assuming that you know IQ's heart or the heart of any Catholic.

Some months ago on this forum there was a thread on the Shroud of Turin. One poster made the comment that if you read the Bible you would know the shroud was fake because in his personal edition in his hand it said "linen strips". So, I went to one of the on-line Bibles that had multiple translations and posted a specific verse from 9 different versions... NIV, KJV, NKJV, RSV, ASV, Darby and so on. Only one had that poster's reference. It is, infact, the translator.


1,664 posted on 02/25/2006 9:52:52 AM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: Full Court
Full Court, the person using the word here is not God, it's the translator.
"If you do not believe that the Bible is the Word of God then we have no common ground to discuss issue from."

Full Court, the Bible was written in a different language. In particular, the New Testament was written in a form of Greek. Sometimes when you translate a word into another language, you don't have the exact word in the other language and you have to approximate. In my reading of the Holy Sciptures, that appears to be the case here. Otherwise, the Apostle James appears to have been the brother and the father of the Apostle Jude, which would indeed be a miraculous occurance, and Mary has a sister named Mary.

"I have studied the history of the Catholic church and her actions, so I know that there is no chance at all that she is a correct body of authority."

It sounds like you are quite convinced, and I have no illusions that I'll be changing your mind. However, just reading through your posts, it seems to be your strong conviction that Catholics and the Catholic Church are evil. Am I understanding you correctly? If so, would you mind sharing a few of the reasons that caused you to feel this way?

"The Word of God however is. Yet you reject it."

Full Court, I hold the Word of God in the highest regard.
1,669 posted on 02/25/2006 10:22:34 AM PST by InterestedQuestioner (Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.)
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To: Full Court
Bible is the Word of God

Which translation and in which language? You read Greek? I do.

1,696 posted on 02/25/2006 12:37:44 PM PST by annalex
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