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New San Francisco Archbishop Thinks Gay Propaganda Film "Brokeback Mountain" is "Very Powerful"
The Vatican needs to put a stop to this immediately!
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Really a shame that this guy is Archbishop. Many of the folks in the pews of his archdiocese are socially conservative Filipinos, Vietnamese, or other Asian groups (to say nothing of the Latins) that are diametrically opposed to the Yuppie mindset shared by the Archbishop.
OK, this is disgusting. How did he get in such an exalted position?
Scott Peterson comes to mind as someone who wasn't honest. I hope there aren't any wife-killings at the end of the "love story."
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I'm getting worried about this guy. A bishop should be willing to stand up for the Catechism's teaching on homosexuality.
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http://www.cwnews.com/offtherecord/offtherecord.cfm?task=singledisplay&recnum=3423
http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm
http://www.streamload.com/Deliver/Deliver.asp?cxInstID=45740628&nodeID=1012804193&action=2&isDelivery=true&forceSaveAs=true&returnPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Estreamload%2Ecom%2FNodes%2FNode%2Easp%3FcxInstID%3D45740628%26nodeID%3D955567202
Thounds thwell.
Notes as I listen to his interview:
1. His enforcement of the no-poofters rule in seminaries seems likely to be weak. He doesn't clearly define that even chaste homomsexuals do not belong in the priesthood, although he raises some interesting points about sexual maturity.
2. He did not accept that homosexuality was THE cause of the pedophilia, but he emphasized "the" in a way as if to suggest that he noted that most of the pedophiles were gay and that it might be a major factor. He emphasized he was not an expert at such issues.
3. Asked why a gay or lesbian would want to enter the Catholic church, he replied that the Catholic church mercifully helps people along the journey to perfection.
4. Favorite author outside scripture: Anne Padgett (sp?) Very highly thinks of "The Habit of Being" by Flannery O'Connor (sp?).
5. Liked Munich, Capote, thought Syriana was too long but well-done... Noted that he hadn't seen Narnia, but in a way which infers he would like to see it.
6. His reference to Brokeback Mountain being "very powerful" is not in any way praise. Notes the movie shows the evil of living a double life, being dishonest and being unfaithful.
7. Considers the call to celibacy outside of heterosexual marriage "a very high bar" to set, but must be adhered to. Says we (catholics) must respect them, but they must respect Catholic values and recognize that Catholics help everyone.
All in all, he was presenting a friendly (soft?) face to a difficult audience, but nothing he said betrays any open or secretly held heretical views. Rather disappointing on seminary reform, but all in all, there is certainly no basis for removal.
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
I thought it was three strikes and you're out. That was about five.
GAG!
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It is my impression that the Archbishop is trying to walk a very fine line here. He will undoubtedly find however, that he cannot please two masters.
"Because when we're talking about pedophilia we're talking about a sickness, an illness, an aberration."
If the scandal had been primarily about pedophilia, he might almost have a point.
It was not. It was about chicken-hawking.
The scandal was/is about homosexual men in the priesthood.
Abp. Niederauer had some notable classmates at St. John's in Camarillo: Abp. Levada and Cdl. Mahony.
San Francisco needed someone like Fr. Fessio. Yes, it would shrink the Church in that area in the short term, but it would strengthen her in the long run.
"one of the lessons (of the film) is the destructiveness of not being honest with yourself and not honest with other people and not being faithful, trying to live a double life."
A very disturbing quote. The archbishop seems to imply that the only problem was the adultery, "not being faithful" (to their wives), and leading a "double life".
In other words, he seems to imply that everything would be fine if the men had been unmarried. Then they could have been "honest with other people" and not have had to "lead a double life".
By the way, this nonsense about "being honest with yourself" is modernist psychobabble which is used to affirm homosexuals in their disorder. One of the steps in the seminary admission process is to get the candidate to "be honest with himself" about his "sexuality". If the candidate is a homosexual, it's usually no problem as long as he is "honest with himself" about it. Men who are normal heterosexuals have a lot more hoops to jump through to get in.
And if they're conservative to boot, heaven help them!