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To: bornacatholic
As I understand it, it was against 'Catholic' law for Catholics to read the bible for many centuries...I understand why...And I understand the reason for this person's attack on the bible...And here's one example:

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.

One will notice Christ is the 'head' of the church...There is no pope...There is no priest to forgive your sins...In fact:
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Boy is that simple...No wonder these people hate the bible...

Just for the record, I was 'saved', and then baptized...
But what are we all counting on to get us to heaven??? Some of us are counting on the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ...And some of us apparently are counting on the City Water Supply...

Joh 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
Joh 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

John claims he was baptizing with 'water' to proclaim Jesus to Israel...Not a Christian or Gentile in the whole bunch...He wasn't preaching the Head of the Church...The 'mystery of the church wasn't revealed until Jesus revealed it to the Apostle Paul...Peter didn't even initially know about the church...

Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

The baptism by water 'for salvation' was eventually eliminated...Check out Acts: 8, 9, 10, and 11 etc...

It's pretty clear why some churches want to plant the seeds of disbelief in the bible...Oh, and by the way;

Act 13:49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.

Appears as tho the believers were writing out copies as fast as their fingers would move, contrary to what some may say...

14 posted on 02/04/2006 7:59:43 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: Iscool

**As I understand it, it was against 'Catholic' law for Catholics to read the bible for many centuries...**

Where are you getting this faulty Catholic information. This has never been the truth. We have always read the Bible and had first, second readings, a Psalm and a Gospel at each and every Mass.

Your post is outrageous.


18 posted on 02/04/2006 8:46:00 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Iscool; bornacatholic
Act 13:49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.

Appears as tho the believers were writing out copies as fast as their fingers would move, contrary to what some may say...

I don't buy into the RCC is the one true church nonsense at all; but publish does not always mean writing. Generally speaking, that is the interpretation today, but it wasn't necessarily so centuries ago.

29 posted on 02/05/2006 12:54:38 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: Iscool

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/baptism.html


30 posted on 02/05/2006 2:34:29 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: Iscool

Your snide remarks & petty nastiness is uncalled for. If you cannot engage in a free exchange & reasoned debate without spitting in the other person's eye with sentence you utter, it's probably best that you just sit this discussion out. As the saying goes, "Better to remain silent & be thought a fool, than to open your mouth & dispel all doubt."


36 posted on 02/05/2006 3:26:25 AM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: Iscool

Iscool,

The Catholic Church never banned anyone from reading the Bible; nor is the posted sermon an attack on he Bible. It is an attack on sola scriptura. Sola scriptura is a belief, a doctrine, and perhaps a methodology. It is NOT the Bible. The Bible is the Bible, and sola scriptura is a doctrine that Protestants have slapped onto the Bible.


43 posted on 02/05/2006 6:55:16 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Iscool

Iscool,

The Catholic Church never had laws against people reading the Bible; nor is the posted sermon an attack on he Bible. It is an attack on sola scriptura. Sola scriptura is a belief, a doctrine, and perhaps a methodology. It is NOT the Bible. The Bible is the Bible, and sola scriptura is a doctrine that Protestants have slapped onto the Bible.


44 posted on 02/05/2006 6:56:00 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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