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New round begins in US Lutheran-Roman Catholic dialogue
Catholic News Agency ^ | February 2, 2006

Posted on 02/02/2006 11:56:53 AM PST by NYer

More than 20 Lutheran and Roman Catholic leaders in the United States are set to continue their dialogue toward unity April 20-23 in Phoenix. The leaders had their first meeting of Round XI at the Cenacle Conference and Retreat Center in Washington Dec. 1-4.

Lutheran-Catholic dialogue has been under way for the last 40 years. Its desired goal is "pulpit and altar fellowship, full communion,” and it has seen significant progress.

In 1999, the Lutheran World Federation and the Holy See signed the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification, which indicates an agreement on the basic understanding of the doctrine of justification and declares that certain 16th-century condemnations of each other no longer apply.

The current round of talks, on the theme “The Hope for Eternal Life,” is building on the Joint Declaration and on talks that preceded the signing in 1999. Among the topics taken up were differences between Catholics and Lutherans over the Christian's life beyond death, especially as regards purgatory, indulgences, and masses and prayers for the dead.

Bishop Richard Sklba, auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, and the Rev. Lowell Almen, secretary of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) are co-chairing this round of talks.

Bishop Sklba said it may take years to complete discussions on the issues in this round of dialogue. He said he is interested in making sure Catholic practices reflect the Joint Declaration.

On an international scale, officials of the Lutheran World Federation and the Vatican are discussing the possibility of joint events and observances leading up to 2017, the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther's posting of the 95 theses, which began the Protestant Reformation. Another occasion for collaboration is the 50th anniversary of the Vatican II "Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation” in 2015. A two-year commemoration of both historic events leading up to 2017 is being considered.

The 2004 dialogue produced the 69-page document "The Church as Koinonia of Salvation: Its Structures and Ministries.”


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; History; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: ecumenism; elca; lutheran; vatican
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1 posted on 02/02/2006 11:56:55 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...


2 posted on 02/02/2006 11:57:29 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

I left the ELCA and came back to Rome for a reason! to get away from the heresy!


3 posted on 02/02/2006 12:00:12 PM PST by badabing98
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To: badabing98

Ditto, I left ELCA and am now in RCIA classes.


4 posted on 02/02/2006 12:05:45 PM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: NYer; TonyRo76
FYI Tony.

The LCMS has sent delegates to this also. Should be interesting.
5 posted on 02/02/2006 12:10:27 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

The LCMS has sent delegates, but is not interested in unity with organizational unity with Rome on the matter. (A friend is a LCMS District President = bishop).


6 posted on 02/02/2006 12:24:40 PM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: GAB-1955

As far as I understand it, most of the LWF doesn't really want full organizational unity either.


7 posted on 02/02/2006 12:44:36 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: GAB-1955

BTW what district are you in? Eastern IA here. (Miss Nebraska, for a lot of reasons!).


9 posted on 02/02/2006 12:56:28 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

BTW what district are you in?

Southeastern.


10 posted on 02/02/2006 1:19:38 PM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Rudi08
"Does Martin Luther know about this?"

When Martin Luther sees what the modern liberal church has done in his name, he'll probably go back to Rome too.
11 posted on 02/02/2006 1:55:56 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: TXBSAFH; badabing98

Listening to the former ELCA people in RCIA at my parish I would say there's a mighty wide gulf between ELCA and the Catholic Church.


12 posted on 02/02/2006 1:56:07 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Rudi08
Does Martin Luther know about this?

We'll have to contact his social secretary and make sure he keeps this date open:

On an international scale, officials of the Lutheran World Federation and the Vatican are discussing the possibility of joint events and observances leading up to 2017, the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther's posting of the 95 theses, which began the Protestant Reformation.

13 posted on 02/02/2006 2:01:00 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Rudi08
Let Rome have them.

How about a Joint Declaration that they're on their own?

17 posted on 02/02/2006 2:37:17 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Rudi08

agreed...I honestly can't believe that any part of Rome is interested in any kind of joint with them...


18 posted on 02/02/2006 5:53:56 PM PST by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: NYer

BTTT! Wondering if there is any hope here for more Lutherans to return to the Catholic Church?


19 posted on 02/02/2006 5:56:56 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
How about instead, the ELCA and Wisconsin Synod Lutherans come to the Missouri Synod. We have too many doctrinal differences with the Roman Church to be one in unity, though we are one in love of the Lord. We believe the elements are consubstantiated. We do not believe in the authority of the papacy or of the Magisterium in spiritual matters. We do not believe in a treasury of merit, and we have a different concept of the work of the Holy Spirit in Baptism.

We must work together with our Catholic brothers and sisters, but organizational unity is impossible.
20 posted on 02/03/2006 8:36:40 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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