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Vatican moves to clear Judas’ name
YNet News ^ | Jan. 12, 2006

Posted on 01/12/2006 7:42:57 AM PST by Alouette

Proposed ‘rehabilitation’ of the man who was paid 30 pieces of silver to identify Jesus to Roman soldiers in the Garden of Gethsemane, comes on the ground that he was not deliberately evil, but was just ‘fulfilling his part in God’s plan, the London Times reports

Judas Iscariot, the disciple who betrayed Jesus with a kiss, is to be given a makeover by Vatican scholars, according to the London Times.

The proposed “rehabilitation” of the man who was paid 30 pieces of silver to identify Jesus to Roman soldiers in the Garden of Gethsemane, comes on the ground that he was not deliberately evil, but was just “fulfilling his part in God’s plan,” the London Times said.

Christians have traditionally blamed Judas for aiding and abetting the Crucifixion, and his name is synonymous with treachery. According to St Luke, Judas was “possessed by Satan.”

According to the London Times, a campaign led by Monsignor Walter Brandmuller, head of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Science, is aimed at persuading believers to look kindly at a man reviled for 2,000 years.

Mgr Brandmuller told fellow scholars it was time for a “re-reading” of the Judas story. He is supported by Vittorio Messori, a prominent Catholic writer close to both Pope Benedict XVI and the late John Paul II.

Signor Messori said that the rehabilitation of Judas would “resolve the problem of an apparent lack of mercy by Jesus toward one of his closest collaborators.”

He told La Stampa that there was a Christian tradition that held that Judas was forgiven by Jesus and ordered to purify himself with “spiritual exercises” in the desert.

'Judas portrayed with a hooked nose'

In scholarly circles, it has long been unfashionable to demonize Judas and Catholics in Britain are likely to welcome Judas’ rehabilitation.

The London Times quoted Father Allen Morris, Christian Life and Worship secretary for the Catholic Bishops of England and Wales, as saying, “If Christ died for all — is it possible that Judas too was redeemed through the Master he betrayed?”

The “rehabilitation” of Judas could help the Pope’s drive to improve Christian-Jewish relations, which he has made a priority of his pontificate.

Some Bible experts say Judas was “a victim of a theological libel which helped to create anti Semitism” by forming an image of him as a “sinister villain” prepared to betray for money.

In many medieval plays and paintings Judas is portrayed with a hooked nose and exaggerated Semitic features. In Dante’s Inferno, Judas is relegated to the lowest pits of Hell, where he is devoured by a three-headed demon.

The move to clear Judas’s name coincides with plans to publish the alleged Gospel of Judas for the first time in English, German and French. Though not written by Judas, it is said to reflect the belief among early Christians — now gaining ground in the Vatican — that in betraying Christ Judas was fulfilling a divine mission, which led to the arrest and Crucifixion of Jesus and hence to man’s salvation, according to the London Times.

'Fell headlong'

Mgr Brandmuller said that he expected “no new historical evidence” from the supposed gospel, which had been excluded from the canon of accepted Scripture.

But it could “serve to reconstruct the events and context of Christ’s teachings as they were seen by the early Christians.” This included that Jesus had always preached “forgiveness for one’s enemies.”

Some Vatican scholars have expressed concern over the reconsideration of Judas. Monsignor Giovanni D’Ercole, a Vatican theologian, said it was “dangerous to re-evaluate Judas and muddy the Gospel accounts by reference to apocryphal writings. This can only create confusion in believers.”

The Gospels tell how Judas later returned the 30 pieces of silver — his “blood money” — and hanged himself, or according to the Acts of the Apostles, “fell headlong and burst open so that all his entrails burst out."


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; History; Judaism; Religion & Culture; Theology
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Frumanchu
Judas Iscariot, the disciple who betrayed Jesus with a kiss, is to be given a makeover by Vatican scholars, according to the London Times.

After all the oddball stuff we were told yesterday, words absolutely fail me today. Another thread was just posted on the same subject here:

Judas The Misunderstood

21 posted on 01/12/2006 8:55:28 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Proverbs 12:10)
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To: SirLinksalot
Jesus answered them, "Did I not choose you, the twelve? Yet one of you is a devil."

This affected me. How could I have overlooked it? One definition of Devil is "subordinate to evil".

But now another question arises: Have we not all been, at one time, subordinate to evil? God needed Judas for His plan as I mentioned, and He also needed the King of Egypt - whose "heart He hardened".

God is truly the potter and we are all His clay, in spite of our beliefs. I feel so sorry for Judas. I wonder, does my empathy make excuses for Judas?

22 posted on 01/12/2006 8:57:04 AM PST by EequalsMC2
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To: EequalsMC2

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But now another question arises: Have we not all been, at one time, subordinate to evil?
>>>>>

Why would Jesus then say that it would have been better for Judas to have never been born ?

If our being at one time or another, subordinate to evil, would it warrant a serious statement that says, it would have been better for us to have never been born ?


23 posted on 01/12/2006 9:06:19 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: silverleaf
This would be one problem I have with the Catholic thinking....that it is up to the Vatican to "rehabiltate" and "forgive" Judas. Just a 'lil gesture to show remorse for past anti-semiticism?

I do not believe it is up to any mere man to rehab or forgive anyone, of course. But many Catholics need the Vatican for guidance - not necessarily a good thing. My interest in the subject however, bypassed Vatican thought. The Judas "situation" affects me in a most personal way.

Especially when over the centuries there have been so many Catholics who have been made to feel guilt over the sin and exclusion from heaven (not to mention being denied burial in hallowed ground) of their loved ones who committed suicide ... without even throwing in the betrayal of Jesus. Are they all going to be rehabbed and re-buried too?

That most personal way being a beloved brother who committed suicide. It was not him. I must believe that. How could God condemn someone who is not themselves in the depths of despair?

Ironically, wasn't Judas be the only apostle who died Jewish .... and not Catholic?

I'm not sure. I've always believed that "religion" was mans invention.

24 posted on 01/12/2006 9:06:36 AM PST by EequalsMC2
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To: Alex Murphy

Absolutely amazing. Just when I think nothing more will surprise me....


25 posted on 01/12/2006 9:10:21 AM PST by HarleyD ("No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him..." John 6:44)
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To: XeniaSt
Man's tradition, again

More like the London Times' fanciful ideas.

26 posted on 01/12/2006 9:12:56 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: HarleyD
Absolutely amazing. Just when I think nothing more will surprise me....

You're surprised that the MSM would come up with a goofball story about the church? (Reality: you should be surprised when they don't.) Or are you surprised that they can (maybe) find a goofball Catholic cleric to say something nutty? (Reality: there are plenty of goofball Catholic clerics -- whether or not this man is one of them.)

I love how they equate (what may be) one Monsignor's kooky idea with "the Vatican says".

At this rate, in a few years we'll be reading:

VATICAN SAYS MOHAMMED THE ONLY PROPHET, KORAN INSPIRED

... Mohammed Al-Trop, a maintenance worker installing a wiring upgrade at St. Peter's Basilica, said that he believed Mohammed was a prophet and the Koran was inspired. This new Vatican policy, which informed sources expect to be confirmed by the Pope within the next few weeks, comes on the wake of ...

28 posted on 01/12/2006 9:19:58 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Alouette

Really wondering about the thesis here.


29 posted on 01/12/2006 9:21:05 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: All
Though not written by Judas, it is said to reflect the belief among early Christians — now gaining ground in the Vatican — that in betraying Christ Judas was fulfilling a divine mission

This idea supposedly "gaining ground in the Vatican" was condemned by the Council of Trent. Sorry about that, London Times.

30 posted on 01/12/2006 9:22:03 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: EequalsMC2
Well, EegualsMC2, here is some middle age cogitation for you to ponder:http://www.newadvent.org/summa/408102.htm

It answers much, and raises more questions for some, as Augustine makes clear the case of the Sacramental nature of the Last Supper, observed then and now by Catholics. As to Xenia's objection to spiritual excercises, naturally we are called to examine our consciences, lest we should stray from the Faith, as John Chyrsostom, another early Christian Father makes the point in this passage:http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/230612.htm

Not the least of which makes the case that 1 TIMOTHY iv. 1--3 emphatically indicates we are not once saved always saved. V's wife.

31 posted on 01/12/2006 9:22:14 AM PST by ventana
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To: Alouette

St. Judas Iscariot protect us.


32 posted on 01/12/2006 9:22:26 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Alouette

since when are we a "victim" of our own sin??


33 posted on 01/12/2006 9:22:27 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: Alex Murphy

"After all the oddball stuff we were told yesterday"

What oddball stuff?

(inquiring minds...)


34 posted on 01/12/2006 9:24:11 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: EequalsMC2

I agree with your point about suicide but when you say you believe Judas was forgiven.

How do you know he hung himself out of remorse rather than fear?

I'm not remembering the scripture related to Judas death at the moment.

Welcome to Fr.


35 posted on 01/12/2006 9:25:49 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: P-Marlowe
St. Judas Iscariot protect us.

ROTFL! Between you and me, I'm sure we can figure out what he's the "patron saint" of.

36 posted on 01/12/2006 9:26:51 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Proverbs 12:10)
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To: Alex Murphy
ROTFL! Between you and me, I'm sure we can figure out what he's the "patron saint" of.

The patron Saint of silversmiths.

Or perhaps the patron saint of snitches.

37 posted on 01/12/2006 9:29:13 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: SirLinksalot
If our being at one time or another, subordinate to evil, would it warrant a serious statement that says, it would have been better for us to have never been born ?

Good question.

In the case of Judas, If I were Judas, and had betrayed Gods only Son..I would truly wish I had never been born. Indeed, for my own self, it would be better if I had not been born. Serious indeed. Horrific in human terms.

The burden of betraying God would be too great to bear for any human. What does one do with such a burden?

God creates us. God uses us for His own pleasure, which is right and fair. Judas was necessary for Gods plan to be fulfilled-he HAD to be born. Back to the "potter and the clay" I guess.

Perhaps faith is what Judas lacked. Without faith, there is no hope of salvation.

I feel so...judgemental.

38 posted on 01/12/2006 9:29:27 AM PST by EequalsMC2
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To: Alex Murphy

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St. Judas Iscariot protect us
>>>>

I thought we already had a St. Judas ? ( the patron saint of desperate cases ).


39 posted on 01/12/2006 9:30:22 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: Campion; Alex Murphy

You're too sensitive to the Catholic Church. I have no doubt there will be sensitive Protestants jumping on board this one as well. Trouble is identifying them. Having 30,000+ denominations has its advantages. :O)


40 posted on 01/12/2006 9:36:14 AM PST by HarleyD ("No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him..." John 6:44)
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