[Manfred the Wonder Dawg]

Check out this lengthly interview with "Amercia's Pastor" - http://pewforum.org/events/index.php?EventID=80 About half way down, Warren is quoted saying "Now the word "fundamentalist" actually comes from a document in the 1920s called the Five Fundamentals of the Faith. And it is a very legalistic, narrow view of Christianity, and when I say there are very few fundamentalists, I mean in the sense that they are all actually called fundamentalist churches, and those would be quite small. There are no large ones."

Now, from this site - http://www.eaec.org/bibleanswers/five_fundamentals_of_the_faith.htm are the 5 commonly adhered-to fundamentals:

FIVE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE FAITH



There are five fundamentals of the faith which are essential for Christianity, and upon which we agree:

1. The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:1; John 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9).

2. The Virgin Birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27).

3. The Blood Atonement (Acts 20:28; Romans 3:25, 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 9:12-14).

4. The Bodily Resurrection (Luke 24:36-46; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 15:14-15).

5. The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20). [1]

Are these "legalistic and narrow" or are they Biblical? Methinks "pastor" Warren has departed "the narrow way" in his efforts to attract many lost folks to his version of "church".

[wallcrawlr]

The road is narrower than most Christians realize.

[ClearCase_guy]

Interesting.

But I can't square this with the language Warren uses in the posted article. He lists off Muslim, Jewish and Christian fundamentalism, calls them all an enemy, and says they are motivated by fear.

You have listed Five Fundamentals of the Faith -- and I cannot imagine a Christian minister saying that those Five Fundamentals are motivated by fear, or that these Five beliefs make one an enemy of the Christian Faith.

I think we have apples and oranges here.

[My2Cents]

Good post! "Narrow" indeed. Every Christian church should be so "narrow."

Warren: "I mean in the sense that they are all actually called fundamentalist churches, and those would be quite small. There are no large ones."

I wonder if this is his main point of contention with the "fundamentalists," that certain churches haven't bought into Warren's vision of large mega-variety congregations with insipid music and feel-good preaching.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Methinks "pastor" Warren has departed "the narrow way" in his efforts to attract many lost folks to his version of "church".

Yep, yep, yep. Ol' Rick has mesmerized a lot of folks and the "fruit" of his seminars is destroying churches everywhere.

These QUOTES should give every Christian pause.

[joesbucks]

5. The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20). [1]

Just two questions. How did Judas die? How was the land Judas bought purchased?

[twntaipan]

No he hasn't.

[connectthedots]

I am sure Warren was not referring to the fundamentals of the faith when he made reference to fundamentalists. He was likely referring to people like Pat Robertson. If so, Warren is correct to criticize those like Robertson.

[Gamecock]

If adhering to those five tenants makes one a fundamentalist, I guess I are one....