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Posted on 01/05/2006 6:16:30 PM PST by LaTiNaLoViN
http://www.chiesa.espressonline.it/dettaglio.jsp?id=44140&eng=y
It is said that the pope is giving the way 2 years to change the eucharist to what he thinks it should be and it is going to do away with alot of stuff, read the whole article. Its long but worth it! What do you think?
"I am to inform you of the Holy Father’s decisions..."
Congregatio de Cultu Divino et Disciplina Sacramentorum
Prot. 2520/03/L
From Vatican City, December 1, 2005
To the esteemed Mr. Kiko Argüello, Ms. Carmen Hernandez, and Rev. Father Mario Pezzi,
Following the conversations with this Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments on the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharist in the communities of the Neocatechumenal Way, in keeping with the guidelines issued in the meeting with you on November 11 of this year, I am to inform you of the Holy Father’s decisions.
In the celebration of the Holy Mass, the Neocatechumenal Way shall accept and follow the liturgical books approved by the Church, without omitting or adding anything. Furthermore, in regard to some elements the guidelines and clarifications are emphasized as follows:
1. Sunday is the “Dies Domini” as the Servant of God Pope John Paul II wished to illustrate in the Apostolic Letter on the Lord’s Day. Therefore the Neocatechumenal Way must enter into dialogue with the diocesan bishop in order to make it clear that the community of the Neocatechumenal Way is incorporated into the parish even in the context of the liturgical celebrations. At least one Sunday per month, the communities of the Neocatechumenal Way must participate in the Holy Mass of the parish community.
2. As for any admonitions issued before the readings, these must be brief. Adherence must also be shown to what is set out in the “Institutio Generalis Missalis Romani” (nn. 105 and 128) and to the Praenotanda of the “Ordo Lectionum Missae” (nn. 15, 19, 38, 42).
3. The homily, because of its nature and importance, is reserved to the priest or deacon (cf. Codex Iuris Canonici, can. 767 § 1). As for the occasional contribution of testimonies on the part of the lay faithful, the proper places and methods for these are indicated in the Interdicasterial Instruction “Ecclesiae de Mysterio, ” which was approved “in specific form” by Pope John Paul II and published on August 15, 1997. In this document, sections 2 and 3 of article 3 read as follows:
§2 - “It is permitted to have a brief instruction that helps explain better the liturgy that is being celebrated, and even, in exceptional circumstances, a few testimonies, as long as these conform to the liturgical norms, are offered on the occasion of Eucharistic liturgies celebrated on particular days (for seminarians, the sick, etc.), and are thought truly helpful as an illustration of the regular homily delivered by the celebrating priest. These instructions and testimonies must not assume characteristics that might cause them to be confused with the homily.”
§3 - “The possibility of ‘dialogue’ during the homily (cf. Directorium de Missis cum Pueris, no. 48) can be used occasionally and with prudence by the celebrating minister as a means of exposition, which does not transfer to others the duty of preaching.”
Careful attention must also be paid to the Instruction “Redemptionis Sacramentum, ” no. 74.
4. On the exchange of peace, permission is granted to the Neocatechumenal Way to continue using the indult already granted, pending further instructions.
5. On the manner of receiving Holy Communion, a period of transition (not exceeding two years) is granted to the Neocatechumenal Way to pass from the widespread manner of receiving Holy Communion in its communities (seated, with a cloth-covered table placed at the center of the church instead of the dedicated altar in the sanctuary) to the normal way in which the entire Church receives Holy Communion. This means that the Neocatechumenal Way must begin to adopt the manner of distributing the Body and Blood of Christ that is provided in the liturgical books.
6. The Neocatechumenal Way must also make use of the other Eucharistic Prayers contained in the missal, and not only Eucharistic Prayer II.
In short, the Neocatechumenal Way, in its celebration of the Holy Mass, should follow the approved liturgical books, keeping in mind what is laid out above under the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Acknowledging the favors that the Lord has bestowed upon the Church through the many activities of the Neocatechumenal Way, I take this occasion to extend to you my best regards.
+ Francis Card. Arinze Prefect
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Esteemed Mr. ARGÜELLO Kiko, Ms. HERNANDEZ Carmen, Rev. Fr. PEZZI Mario Via dei Gonzaga, 205 ROMA ********************************************************* a response directed at these writers written by Giuseppe (HEAD CATECHIST OF the neocatechumenal way in THE UNITED STATES)
28 December 2005 +Holy Innocents
Dear Mr. Allen:
I read with great surprise the article published in the National Catholic Reporter in regard to the letter of the Sacred Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments given to the initiators and responsibles of the Neocatechumenal Way, Kiko Argüello, Carmen Hernandez and Fr. Mario Pezzi, and deemed “confidential” by the express desire of the Congregation.
The article, apart from reporting, as if they were real, pieces of news without any foundation (in particular, I would remind you that no lay person of the Neocatechumenal Communities has ever given the homily in place of the priest) totally overlooks the content of the letter. Even from a merely journalistic point of view, the letter is not in fact a reproach to the communities for the presumed “idiosyncratic features” of their liturgy but is very important since it represents the first official document to accept some variations present in the liturgical praxis of the Neocatechumenal Way as a correct and licit adaptation for helping contemporary man receive the grace communicated by the sacraments.
This document constitutes the arrival point of a process that has lasted several years with a very positive outcome for the liturgical praxis of the Neocatechumenal Way thanks precisely to Benedict XVI and his esteem for the Neocatechumenal Communities even from the time that he was a professor in Tübingen and in 1974 when he acted to introduce the Neocatechumenal Way to Germany. This esteem is openly testified in many of his books.
1. The great novelty of the letter is that it recognizes the fundamental principle of the full legitimacy of special celebrations in the “Dies Domini” for the Neocatechumenal Communities (which are composed 70 percent by baptized persons who abandoned religious practice and who therefore are in need of a sacramental mystagogy). In order to fully appreciate this concession, it is enough to remember that even up to today many opposed this practice as “elitist” or “divisive” (even if the liturgies of the Way are open to all): now, instead, the principle is being approved officially. The request to participate once a month in the general celebrations of the parish is already practiced widely in the Neocatechumenal Communities, given the fact that on the occasions of Christmas, the Epiphany, the Missa in Coena Domini, the Patronal Feast day, the Immaculate Conception and on many other solemnities, the communities already celebrate with the entire parish.
2. The letter concedes that the sign of peace be exchanged before the offertory: here, too, in order to grasp the magnitude of this concession, it is enough to remember that just a few days prior to the letter, the Prefect of the Congregation had explained to hundreds of Bishops participating in the Synod on the Eucharist (the Acta would show this) that no one would ever be allowed to change the place of the sign of peace.
3. Also permitted are the admonitions before the Readings and the echo before the homily: these, too, have been contested, and instead here receive official recognition.
4. Finally, permission is given – indeed in writing – to the mode of distribution, and for a long period, albeit ad experimentum, which shows that it is not a question of an irreverent practice but wholly legitimate within the context of the approval of the Statutes. Once the period ad experimentum is completed, the Interdicasterial Commission of the five Congregations that approved the Statutes (the Council for the Laity, and the Congregations for Faith, Clergy and Catechesis, Liturgy, and Catholic Education) will verify the necessary adaptations.
All of these adaptations – practiced for over thirty years and always having informed and in communion with the Congregation for Divine Worship (such that various Prefects have presided the Eucharist of Neocatechumenal Communities) – were presented to the Congregation for the approval of the Holy Father, following the process established when the Congregation held that the adaptations requested receive a foundation. Pope Benedict XVI, who received the initiators of the Way on 19 November and will again receive in a public audience on 12 January 2006 representatives of the Neocatechumenal Way to send over 200 families on mission to the most dechristianized areas of the world, has approved them.
If one considers that we are before the only case of an ecclesial reality that has been allowed some important liturgical variations, one can understand the consideration and the importance given to this by Benedict XVI and the Congregation itself: the letter concludes in fact by expressing gratitude “to the Lord for the good fruits borne to the Church ” by the Neocatechumenal Way.
Giuseppe Gennarini Responsible for the Neocatechumenal Way in the United States ******************************************* WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THIS? IM ALSO A NEO CAT. AND DISAGREE WITH ALL OF THESE!. IT IS SAID THAT THE "he Bishop is already putting into effect the rules issued by the Pope."
I'm wondering if the mods have the nerve to ZOT a "religious" poster.
He's threatening an "ill comment" once others comment....
I was wondering if that was something it was going to be able to get THROUGH my monitor...........LOL.
I'm thinking.. "bunny.. pancake?" but what do I know?
;-)
Don't forget the cheese.
Hey NOOB, how about posting the original title?
Liturgy: Benedict XVI Brings the Neocatechumenals Back to the Right Way
does someone want to translate this into English, please?
James thinks he smells a troll. He'll be back with his penguin, if necessary.
D'oh! I forgot the cheese!
At least they moved this from News/Activism to Religion
Already posted:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1552786/posts
Only kidding.
IBTZ ?
By the way, I've been to Neocatechumenate way liturgies, in Kalamazoo, back in the '90's, before I was ordained but while I was in formation for the priesthood. There most definitely were homilies given by the laity in these NW Masses, and I heard things that were not consistent with the theological training I received in the seminary, not consistent with Church teaching. (Fr. Brian Stanley, on the Open Book comments thread about this letter)
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