Skip to comments.The Crisis In the Episcopal Church is the Traditionalists' Fault
Posted on 12/13/2005 3:49:41 PM PST by sionnsar
From Louies Natter:
XXXXXX, I find it hard to believe that you would be facing the defections that
you now face if through the years you had passionately taught Gods love of
gay people and if you had carefully, lovingly challenged the clearly abusive
comments and attitudes about them. You can do so without changing your
theology about the rightness or wrongness of lesbigay behavior. Indeed, we
are all called to go to the uttermost parts of the earth. Have you and your
parish gone to the uttermost parts of the [your local] lbgt community?
While you might have lost a few who cannot abide that Good News, you might
much more fully have attracted other sinners, who while not pro-lbgt, might
dare to think you would welcome them too.
Look at the outreach budget of St. Andrews. What portions of it have you
ever spent in specific ministries to lesbians and gays? How present have
you been in the gay community in ministries of service? Do you take out ads
for St. Andrews in lbgt newspapers? Or ads in the [local paper]
specifically welcoming lbgts? What in your behavior makes lbgts know that
they are welcome at the Gods table? What in your budget shows that
straights in your parish love lesbians and gays as much as they love
I am not making up this criterion: it is Jesus second commandment, and
very close indeed to his first. This is the criterion of the great gettin
up morning - for as often as we have not served those whom we deem the least
among us, we have failed to serve Jesus.
In many cases so-called traditionalists have brought the current crisis on
themselves. It is a crisis brought on by sustained unlove. For 35+ years
while the rest of the Church engaged in conversations with lbgts, the
traditionalists remained largely silent knowing well the contempt which that
silence protected and encouraged. The unspoken message was, Dont worry.
We wont even talk about them, and they will not show up here.
Of course those with unexamined contempt for lbgts now feel betrayed by
their leaders, because lbgts are showing up everywhere, not just in the
lobby, but in primary leadership as sister and brother disciples.
I hear desperation in your appeal to vote for moratoria even if you can hope
to get moratoria for only 3-years at a time.
I hear in your appeal no co-passion for those whom you would exclude. If I
am deaf, point me to that co-passion.
Chair of the Newark Deputation. Member of Executive Council.
Our neighbors a fag and bakes good cakes,
as parents are careful to warn children.
But hes just an undertaker,
so there aint much way
he could harm no living thing.
He even married wunts,
to a widow schoolteacher;
but their maid let out
how the two lived in separate parts
of the house right from the beginning,
and the teacher, being sickly,
conveniently upped and died real soon.
I think those boys were wrong to beat him up
when he wrote the paper about Anita.
A little sugar in his gas tank
or a few discreet breathing calls
oughta been enough to keep him scared
to make another public move.
We aint got nothin gainst queers, really,
longs they dont do nothin or tell nobody.
We never have let the Baptists
tell us how to run our lives.
Louie Crew, 1978
Gruene Street March 1997
Journal of Gay & Lesbian Social Services 7.3 (1997).
Rural Gays and Lesbians. An anthology edited by James D. Smith and Ronald
Mancoske. NY: Harrington Park Press, 1997. 106-107.
Nice to see we are now reaching out to cowboys.
Yeah. Right. Uhhuh...Let us blame those who tell us that the Word says our choices are not right. It's their fault. If they hadn't tried to follow the word, but listened to us, all would be hunky-dory. /sarcasm off
Part of the plan of the one world religion crowd is to marginalize anyone who holds onto a traditional moral code. We are being labeled kooks and extremists for refusing to give up traditional beliefs. Traditional Christianity is a big obstacle from the outside. It will be infiltrated to destroy it from within.
Now that was WEIRD!
That's really, really weird, S.
It's Louie Crew... should I have added a "Barf Alert"?
According to the latest ECUSA figures, my parish has lost 58% of its membership in the past 3 years (I was already long gone).
Guess it's all the fault of the traditionalists. Can't think of what else might have caused it.
"It's Louie Crew... should I have added a "Barf Alert"?"
Well, you know S, with him, it sort of goes without saying, don't you think? :)
Do us all a favor, though, please don't post any of his poetry!
K, you're quite the regular on the Anglican threads.
Did you like freak shows as a child?
Always, on days of the week ending in "y".
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