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Girls at the Altar
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Posted on 12/13/2005 11:56:25 AM PST by badabing98

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I never did like the idea of Altar girls.
1 posted on 12/13/2005 11:56:25 AM PST by badabing98
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thank goodness we're in Arlington
I'm thankful we have plenty of boys to serve...
Our Parish has 8 masses every weekend and 2-3 altar boys serve every mass.
I'm female and I much prefer seeing well trained young men on the altar.
Which is also why I declined when asked to volunteer for EEM (and volunteered my husband).


2 posted on 12/13/2005 12:01:02 PM PST by MudPuppy (Another Day ~ Another Adventure!)
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To: badabing98

Hopefully the Pope will end this experiment and reinstitute the wearing of the cassock and surplice for altar boys.


3 posted on 12/13/2005 12:08:02 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: badabing98
My brother was an altar boy. I really, really wanted to ring those bells, too.

I was about 8. No one was in church. I jumped the rail, knelt, bowed my head reverently, and rang the bells three times saying mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.

I re-jumped the rail, genuflected and went on my way. I still picture God laughing at my brave attempt to fulfill my desire!!

4 posted on 12/13/2005 12:08:41 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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I was about 8. No one was in church. I jumped the rail, knelt, bowed my head reverently, and rang the bells three times saying mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.

LOL!

5 posted on 12/13/2005 12:11:17 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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because altar serving has always been a prime recruiting ground...

Ummmm... yeah. That's the problem.

6 posted on 12/13/2005 12:15:32 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: badabing98

Two Novus Ordo parishes in Greenville, SC with NO ALTAR GIRLS!

We have 5-7 altar boys serving at every DAILY Mass. Fourteen on Sundays. Looking to go to 20!

Oh, and there are NO ALTAR GIRLS at every single Traditional Latin rite of Mass EVER--which we also have at my parish.


7 posted on 12/13/2005 12:16:24 PM PST by Mershon
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To: badabing98
At least two dioceses in the United States - in Arlington, Va., and Lincoln, Neb. - still don't allow girls to be altar servers.

We're Anglican, not Roman Catholic, but girls as altar servers is strictly forbidden.

Some clerics worry that girls will continue taking over altar serving duties, simply because boys and girls often don't like participating in the same activities.

Exactly (or at least part of) the answer our bishop gave to a question.

8 posted on 12/13/2005 12:25:19 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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The emergence of girls and women on the altar is if not a conscious, then at least a subconscious effort to inculcate people to the notion of women priests.

You go to mass and see "altar girls", women readers, women bringing up the offering, and women passing out the Holy Body of Christ. So why must the only role exculsively male be the Priest?


9 posted on 12/13/2005 12:42:20 PM PST by PanzerKardinal
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The emergence of girls and women on the altar is if not a conscious, then at least a subconscious effort to inculcate people to the notion of women priests.

"You go to mass and see "altar girls", women readers, women bringing up the offering, and women passing out the Holy Body of Christ. So why must the only role exculsively male be the Priest?"

I had wondered about that myself...(the effort to make this the norm, that is)

10 posted on 12/13/2005 12:45:53 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: badabing98
The push for altar girls peaked about the time I was hiting altar boy age. I remember the smarmy priest getting up and saying "Since we aren't allowed to have altar girls, we'll have no altar servers at all."

Of course he was given a standing ovation, because nobody would boo a priest even if he deserved it. Maybe if he hadn't elevated feminist ideology over his pastoral duties, my peers and I wouldn't have spent our school years without any significant faith formation.

11 posted on 12/13/2005 1:09:19 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (Hoc ad delectationem stultorum scriptus est)
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We handled the question simply enough with our family: "Your Dad and I feel it's more appropriate for boys to be altar servers." End of discussion. My oldest son likes it because he doesn't have to sit with his sisters, or have me nudging him when it's time to sing. The second one volunteers when we have baptisms, so he can be closer to the babies - although maybe he won't when our new one is born, since he's allowed to hold his brother, not just look :-).

However, I wonder if the shortage of boys in many locations doesn't have something to do with so many families putting sports ahead of faith. One or both of my boys serves at practically every Mass they attend, because the scheduled servers, whether boys or girls, just don't show up.


12 posted on 12/13/2005 1:09:33 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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I wonder if the shortage of boys in many locations doesn't have something to do with so many families putting sports ahead of faith.

Perhaps, but I think it has more to do with Catholic school teachers preferring to let girls out of their classes rather than boys. By and large, their female students are more diligent.

One of the biggest perks of being an altar boy was getting out of class for a funeral or the daily morning mass. Now that the teachers can dismiss a more conscientious student, why bother to volunteer for the job when you'll only be working weekends?

13 posted on 12/13/2005 1:17:32 PM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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Could be. Many Catholic schools no longer have daily Mass, I understand. We've always homeschooled, so I don't keep up too well with what the schools are doing, but it seems like the promotional materials I see generally say "weekly Mass."

It might be different in areas of the country where the Catholic schools have more Catholics in them. Where we've lived, they tend to be majority-Protestant students. Our parish doesn't have a school, and most of the kids go to public school, so this wouldn't explain our absenteeism problem!

I used to take my children to daily Mass, when there were fewer of them and they had fewer other activities. Maybe someday, when everyone's out of diapers, I'll have the opportunity again!


14 posted on 12/13/2005 1:22:55 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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Altar girls may be a step toward the Catholic church someday allowing women as deacons or priests, said Mike Reineck, who trains and schedules servers at Our Lady of the Assumption.

Guess he didn't get the memo. ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS

15 posted on 12/13/2005 1:25:50 PM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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There are some parishes that have the boys wear the cassock and surplice while the girl servers wear little nun's habits. I thought that was a good idea.


16 posted on 12/13/2005 1:27:43 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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The cafateria is closed. By order of the German Shepard.


17 posted on 12/13/2005 1:28:24 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: PanzerKardinal; RabidBartender
So why must the only role exculsively male be the Priest?

15

18 posted on 12/13/2005 1:29:30 PM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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My daughter is an altar server. For those who have bothered to read my posts in "religion," you know that I am hardly a theological liberal (we also do the Divine Office at home). She is under no illusions (and neither am I). It has been very good for her and she has gained enough to be a spiritual leader in her class as the result of this. And, by the way, it is about 50/50 with altar servers in our parish.

I can appreciate that having altar girls is a sorry substitute for altar boys. In an era where there were orthodox female religious around that could provide her a good role model, I am glad that it is open in our diocese. After all, the justification for altar boys is to help young men discern vocations. Well, since there are very few examples of spiritual vocations out there for young women, what do you who criticize female altar servers suggest as something to help young women discern vocations? The parish girl scout troop? CYO? Puhhhleeeesee

Get some sisters (under the age of 200) involved in the schools and in the parishes so that the girls see how they can uniquely dedicate their lives as consecrated women and I'll fully support a complete closure of the sanctuary to females...until such time, this provides about the only spiritual service that a young lady can do

(I know I didn't write this that well, but I hope y'all get my point)


19 posted on 12/13/2005 2:05:36 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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"Altar girls may be a step toward the Catholic church someday allowing women as deacons or priests, said Mike Reineck, who trains and schedules servers at Our Lady of the Assumption."

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Not in this lifetime, bub.

Not to brag or anything, but we have 200 Altar Boys at our parish.
Altar Boys, Choir Girls. How life should be.


20 posted on 12/13/2005 2:06:23 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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