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When Lay Ministers Take Holy Communion to the Sick
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | 12-02-05 | P)ete Vere

Posted on 12/02/2005 9:15:56 AM PST by Salvation

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To: Salvation

When I was living in Valdez (Alaska), I was a Eucharistic Minister, and part of my duties included carrying the Precious Body to the people in the residential care facility in the town. There were about six individuals who were advanced enough mentally to understand and receive. I was always impressed by their deep and simple piety. It was a lovely and moving experience.


21 posted on 12/02/2005 10:56:12 AM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: x5452
"Do any of the Catholic churches use actual bread rather than the disks?"

Yes. The Byzantine Catholic rite uses homemade leavened bread made with the purest ingredients. I believe the Orthodox also use such a loaf.

22 posted on 12/02/2005 10:59:38 AM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: Petrosius
When I was given (albeit erroneously) communion in Catholic Church/School (long before I was baptized) it was something vaguely similar to a cracker.

Is that the norm or is there variation from church to church?
23 posted on 12/02/2005 11:15:15 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452
Yes, that is the norm, a thin wafer made only from wheaten flour and water. The size and thickness can vary a little. There are some so thin that once in the mouth it sticks to the roof of the mouth and is impossible to dislodge until in completely dissolves. Others are a bit thicker with an appearance more of bread.
24 posted on 12/02/2005 11:20:57 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

The one I recall was the thin/sticky one you mention.

One thing I do like about Orthodox Communion is the wine and bread being given together at once. Though my memory of specifics in Catholic church is hazy at best.


25 posted on 12/02/2005 11:44:53 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452
Communion under both species was reintroduced after Vatican II. Its usage varies from church to church. There are three options: 1) Communion from the chalice, 2) Communion from the chalice by using a small tube (Yes, it is a straw. This, using a gold or silver tube, was a practice in the Middle Ages. Its resemblance to a common straw, however, has made this option very rare today.), and 3) Communion by intinction with the Host. Because of our form of the Host this would be by dipping it in the chalice rather than dropping it in and then using a spoon as in the East. When used, option 1 is the one invariably used although option 3 is sometimes encountered. Option 2 is rarely, if ever, used.
26 posted on 12/02/2005 12:06:21 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: murphE; BlackElk
LOL

So, an entire Sacrament was changed, huh? Do you even know what a Sacrament is? If you do, please explain to us how the "whole Sacrament" was changed.

27 posted on 12/02/2005 3:03:23 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: x5452

It is actual bread.


28 posted on 12/02/2005 3:04:37 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: SoothingDave
Catholics use unleavend bread.

[cough] Latin Rite Catholics use unleavened bread.

The Byzantine Rite usage is identical to that of the Eastern Orthodox. I have never seen antidoron in a Byzantine Catholic church, but that may be a matter of local custom or celebrant's option.

29 posted on 12/02/2005 3:10:48 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: bornacatholic

I've eaten bread, and I've had communion in Roman and Eastern churches. The Roman eucharist I am familiar with feels extremely processed. Manufactured.

I personally far prefer the inconsistency of home made or hand made bread. Leaven or no.


30 posted on 12/02/2005 4:02:24 PM PST by x5452
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To: FormerLib
This has an added benefit of allowing the communicant to receive confession prior to taking the Eucharist.

That's nice. I've had lay ministers bring me communion in the hospital or at home when I've had a baby and can't get to Mass (the last time, my three older children were also able to receive, as I couldn't get them to Mass), but it would be wonderful to have the opportunity for Confession as well.

31 posted on 12/02/2005 6:26:18 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
The whole sacrament was not changed.

Sure it was.

THE MATTER OF THE SACRAMENT

According to Father Kilker, "the remote matter of Extreme Unction is oil of olives. The "proximate matter" is the oil of olives blessed by the Bishop. This the Council of Trent definitely defined. "Intellexit enim Ecclesia materiam esse oleum ab episcopo benedictum" (Session XIV).

There is no doubt about what St. James meant when he said "oil of olives" (V:14). Initially the oil of the sick could be blessed by priests and even saintly laymen, but ever since the Council of Chalons in 813 canon law requires that it be blessed by a Bishop. In the Eastern Church it is customary for the oil to be blessed by the priest in the house of the sick person.

In the Latin church it has ever been the custom to employ pure unadulterated olive oil, to which a fragrant oleoresin called Balm or Balsam has been added. In some Eastern rites the practice of adding a little water as a symbol of Baptism, or of a little wine in memory of the good Samaritan, or even of the dust of the sepulchre of some saint, has long been in vogue.

Now this oil is blessed by the Bishop at the magnificent Mass of Maundy Thursday in Holy Week - a Mass so sacred that the Bishop is traditionally attended and assisted by twelve priests, seven deacons and seven sub-deacons in order to say it properly. The prayer reads: Emitte, quaesumus Domine, Spiritum sanctum tuum Paraclitum de coelis in hanc pinguedinem olivae, quam de viridi ligno producere dignatus es and refectionem mentis et corporis..." ("Send forth we pray, Your Holy Spirit, the Paraclite, from heaven into this rich substance of oil..." For Catholics the remote matter of Extreme Unction remains oil of olives and the proximate mattter, "the anointing with oil blessed by a bishop.

What then is the "matter" specified by Paul VI? in his new Rite of Anointing and Pastoral Care of the Sick (promulgated November 30, 1972)?151 The answer is any oil of plant origin - and pray - what oil is ultimately not of plant origin? Axle-grease, Vaseline and Mazola oil can satisfy the requirement. Further, the oil can be blessed by any priest who has the "faculty," and this faculty has been extended by the "Bishop's Committee on the Liturgy" to any priest "where didactic or catechetical reasons prompt it." The blessing has of course also been changed. No longer is the Holy Spirit invoked, but rather, it now reads:

"May your blessing come upon all who are anointed with this oil, that they may be freed from pain and illness and made well again in body and mind and soul." Notice also that the emphasis is almost entirely on the healing of illness, and not on the forgiveness of sins.

Let us next consider the "Form" of the Sacrament, or the words that the priest uses when anointing the patient "in danger of death." The traditional words are: "PER ISTAM SANCTAM UNCTIONEM ET SUAM PIISSIMAM MISERICORDIAM, INDULGEAT TIBI DOMINUS QUIDQUID PER... DELIQUISTI" ("Through this Holy Unction or oil, and through the great goodness of His mercy, may God pardon thee whatever sins thou hast committed [by evil use of sight - smell, touch etc. - depending on the organ anointed.")

Needless to say, this form also has been changed by the post-Conciliar Church to "PER ISTAM SANCTAM UNCTIONEM ET SUAM PIISSIMAM MISERICORDIAM ADIUVET TE DOMINUS GRATIA SPRITUS SANCTI, UT A PECCATIS LIBERATUM TE SOLVAT ADQUE PROPITIUS ALLEVIAT." The semi-official translation given out through the Holy See Press Office is: "Through this holy anointing and His most loving mercy, may the Lord assist you by the grace of the Holy Spirit, so that when you have been freed from your sins, he may save you and in his goodness raise you up." Another translation taken from Father Keating's article is closer to the original: "Through this holy anointing and His great love for you, may the Lord who freed you from sin, heal you and extend his saving grace to you..."152

The official translation provided in DOL 408 is "through this holy anointing may the Lord in His love and mercy help you with the grace of the Holy Spirit. May the Lord who frees you from sin save you and raise you up."

Once again we must ask whether this change in the form is substantial. Pre Vatican II theologians are virtually unanimous in stating that the essential words of the form - the words that convey its essential meaning and are therefore "substantial" - are "INDULGEAT TIBI DOMINUS" - may God pardon thee. Most also insist upon "quidquid deliquisti" and "sanctam unctionem." After all, as Leo XIII said, "the sacraments... ought... to signify the grace which they effect" if they are to "effect what they signify." And in the present situation this is the health of the soul which is effected by strengthening of the soul through grace and by the remission of sins..." (Summa, III, Suppl. 29, 1). Now the new form OMITS all these critical words, and only asks that God "heal" one. While it is to be admitted that throughout history several valid forms have been in use, since the Council of Florence the form has been fixed.

If some of these alternative forms used the word "parcat," "remittat," or even "sanat" in the place of "indulgeat," this in no way affected the substance of the form. However, to OMIT the critical phrase entirely is to remove from the "Form" its ability to absolve. What results is a change in "meaning," and to make a change of such a "substantial" nature almost certainly renders the form invalid. Even if the "blessing" is preceded by a valid absolution - which in many cases is also questionable - one is deprived of the other sacramental effects that are so important.153 Should an older priest desire to use the traditional form, he should know that it is specifically forbidden by Paul VI's Apostolic Constitution.

The post-Conciliar rite is named "Anointing of the Sick." Clearly then, if the post-Conciliar "blessing" is upon the sick, the ersatz sacrament should no longer be limited to those "in danger of death." Twice during the Second Vatican Council the Fathers rejected suggestions that the requirement of "danger of death" for the reception of the Anointing be omitted. As Father Keating points out however, "the new rite does what the Council was not able to do."154 In contrast to the negative wording of Canon 940 which states "Extreme Unction is not able to be offered except to the faithful, who, having attained the use of reason, fall into the danger of death from illness or old age," the new rite can be administered to those who are ill, but in no danger of death whatsoever.

...and there's a lot more.

SOURCE

32 posted on 12/02/2005 6:55:25 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: bornacatholic
LOL

So, an entire Sacrament was changed, huh? Do you even know what a Sacrament is? If you do, please explain to us how the "whole Sacrament" was changed

So nice to hear from you again, and you're just as sweet as you always were.

33 posted on 12/02/2005 7:01:33 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

It looks impressive but the actual arguments are petty--typical of Traditionalist parsing. A shift in focus, I would grant that that took place, but "the whole sacrament changed" is nonsense. If you'd admit the latter is hypebolic we might actually be able to talk about whether the shift in focus was wise or not. I would not go to the stake for the wisdom of the shift in focus, but labeling it a change of the entire sacrament gets things off on the wrong foot and pretty much precludes any intelligent discussion.

In defense of the shift in focus: the changes make this sacrament more clearly what it is: anointing of those gravely ill (in extremis) instead of confusing this sacrament with the others that, where possible, should accompany it: sacramental confession and viaticum/Eucharist. The modification in licit matter is not earthshaking in the way that a modification in Eucharistic matter would be. Your reductio ad absurdum (vasoline, axle-grease) sounds impressive but is meaningless, even wrong-headed. In the first place, just what is vasoline made of? Axle-grease is not made of vegetable matter and I doubt that vasoline is. So the accusation in fact is false.

In criticism of the shift in focus: there really is no reason why continuing to specify olive oil would have been a problem. The modifications, like much of what was done after Vatican II, are not immune from reasonable criticism. But wholesale dismissal such as you offer only means there'll be no reasonable discourse about the matter.

If it makes you feel better to reject the changes on the grounds that the whole sacrament has been changed, so be it. I have no illusions that you will be brought away from your conviction that the "whole sacrament was changed."


34 posted on 12/02/2005 7:55:05 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: x5452

From the definition, it looks like what you are talking about is consecrated hosts. Yes, these are kept in the tabernacle.


35 posted on 12/02/2005 8:07:23 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: murphE
Furthermore, the last paragraph of this article is just plain disingenuous, if not dishonest. The author slyly compares the old canon law statement with the language of the new rite of anointing. If he had compared old canon law with new canon law, he would have had to admit that the 1983 code does specify "dangerously ill" (periculose aegrotantes"--1983 code, Can. 998)--the sacrament cannot be administered to anyone who is ill for any reason at all, as the author falsely claims.

Canon 1004 of the 1983 Code goes on to specify that the sacrament may be administered to anyone after the age of reason who "begins to be in danger due to sickness or old age" (ministrari potest fideli qui, adepto rationis usu, ob infirmitatem vel enium in periculo incipit versari). Then it goes on to say that it can be repeated but only if the "person again falls into a serious sickness after convalescence or whenever a more serious crisis develops during the same sickness." The only change from canon 940 of the 1917 code is that "danger of death" has become "danger." But what danger exists when someone is ill? That he won't recover from his illness. If someone is sick with a cold he is not in any danger whatsoever. He'll recover. But if that turns into pneumonia, he's in greater danger; still likely to recover. We talk about "danger" precisely in relation to the possiblity of not recovering, of dying. The specification that one to be anointed must be "in danger, due to sickness or old age" makes clear that "danger" has a reference to death. The only real change is that the proximity of death, the degree of danger of death, is deliberately lessened.

Yes, there's a change here, but a slight one. To say the entire sacrament has changed is hyperbole and the way the author of this article tries to justify such hyperbole is honest. He thought no one would notice how he compared apples and oranges: canon law 1917 with post-Vatican II liturgical rite. If someone submitted a research paper to me with this kind of disingenuous argumentation, he'd get a well-deserved F.

36 posted on 12/02/2005 8:08:59 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: bornacatholic

Unleavened bread with no yeast in it.


37 posted on 12/02/2005 8:10:28 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

Correction to my # 36: "and the way the author of this article tries to justify such hyperbole is honest" should be "dishonest."


38 posted on 12/02/2005 8:10:41 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: OpusatFR

**Is it possible for only a small piece to be given? Or is it permissible to drink some water to get it down? **

Yes and yes.


39 posted on 12/02/2005 8:11:53 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

What about the words in the form of the sacrament? Sorry, but if I am granted the grace of a happy death, please God, it will be with a traditional priest at my side administering the sacrament of Extreme Unction.


40 posted on 12/02/2005 8:29:16 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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