Posted on 11/13/2005 7:07:31 AM PST by Navydog
Josephus, the first century Jewish historian mentions no fewer than nineteen different Yeshuas/Jesii, about half of them contemporaries of the supposed Christ! In his Antiquities, of the twenty-eight high priests who held office from the reign of Herod the Great to the fall of the Temple, no fewer than four bore the name Jesus: Jesus ben Phiabi, Jesus ben Sec, Jesus ben Damneus and Jesus ben Gamaliel. Even Saint Paul makes reference to a rival magician, preaching another Jesus (2 Corinthians 11,4). The surfeit of early Jesuses includes:
(Excerpt) Read more at jesusneverexisted.com ...
IB4Z
And your point is?
Oh, I see, you posted this to expose it as hate filled bigotry.
That's my assumption and I'm sticking to it, till proven otherwise.
This piece is on a par with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the daily edition of the New York Times for accuracy and logical thinking.
I didn't post it because I believe it....I just want to hear the opinions of others. Don't shoot the messenger!
Some people want to believe what they want to believe...and then try to convince other people. It's a common human practice.
But if you didn't agree, you really should have put a Barf alert in the title.
It's going to be an awkward moment for some, to put it mildly, when Christ returns in judgment.
I wasn't joking about assuming you were posting it to point to its lameness. The only other post at the time was IBTZ, so the negative assumption (and the request for heavy weapons fire) had been posted by others.
It is, however, an incendiary piece that should not have been posted naked. You should have at least added a comment to the effect "I don't believe this, please comment" to avoid implied support.
Not surprisingly, none of these Jesii have proved to be the returned Christ.
....What becomes obvious is that the 'Lord's Prayer' evolved along with the legend of 'the Lord' himself......
So in addition to Christian evolution across the years, there is prayer evolution.
Does Paul ever quote Jesus in any of his writing?
Yep. In 1st Corinthians:
23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me."
1 Corinthians 11:23-25
Yeshua, the likely Hebrew name of the man we know as Jesus, was, and still is, a very common name. Yeshua is commonly spelled today as Joshua in the English speaking world and Jesus in the Spanish speaking world.
I was told once that the Jewish world never uses the name.
That's great and all but it's not as if Christianity requires Josephus's consent to believe what it believes.
LOL!
This was great! (but sadly true...)
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I meant I was was told that Yeshua is never used.
I don't know if that is true, but my informant was a self-described top graduate in one of the top Yeshiva in NYC (a Yeshiva is a school for Rabi's).
....Isn't the Lord's Prayer quoted directly from the Gospels?....
Of course but the article link provides references prior to the gospels indicating it was an existant Jewish liturgy.
The thrust of the total article is that while there are numerous historical persons named Jesus, there are no historical references to Jesus of Nazareth.
OK. My question would be is what would a person named Joshua be called if they went to Israel? Also, that's kind of petty if Jewish people won't use the name because it was Jesus's. I mean, to them, Jesus was just some preacher.
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