[Knitting A Conundrum]

This may be of interest...and interesting to see the reaction when the document comes out.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

a ping you might be interested in.

[NYer]

"The Church cannot admit to the priesthood those who practice homosexuality, have deeply rooted homosexual tendencies or those who support the so-called 'gay culture,'" the newspaper quoted the document as saying.

Bears much repeating! God bless Benedict XVI!!!

[Claud]

Reacting to earlier reports that the document would ban even celibate men with gay tendencies, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin told the British Catholic newspaper The Tablet last month:

"You don't write off a candidate for the priesthood simply because he is a gay man."

Mmmmmm...nooo...actually....I think you do, Your Excellency.

[Cheverus]

This seems pretty self explanatory, they might as well be quoting Archbishop Dolan's "Priests for the Third Millenium" where he differentiates between "tendencies" and "lifestyle".

Nothing new here.

What would be new is if he can get the Bishops in the U.S. to actually listen......

[bourbon]

I wonder what qualifies as "deeply rooted homosexual tendencies?" How will this be defined?

Presumably, it's something short of practicing homosexuality but more than passing gay fancies.

[Aquinasfan]

A new Vatican document will bar from the priesthood practicing homosexuals, men whose gay tendencies are "deeply rooted," or who openly espouse a gay culture, a leading Italian newspaper reported on Friday.

And just when you think things can't get any better...

By several accounts, the document is expected to be short and to the point.

I want to hear the MSM squeal!

[NYer]

Il Giornale of Milan printed what it said were excerpts from the eagerly awaited document, expected to be issued at the end of this month.

I hope this isn't another "trial balloon". We're still several weeks away from the end of the month.

[jcb8199]

There is nothing inherently wrong about homosexual feelings--it is the action or acceptance of the action that is wrong. We are all sinners, and homosexuals who lust are no different than heterosexuals who lust--it is the self-control and devotion to God rather than Man that is important. I like where Benedict XVI is going with all this.

[marshmallow]

A new Vatican document will bar from the priesthood practicing homosexuals, men whose gay tendencies are "deeply rooted," or who openly espouse a gay culture, a leading Italian newspaper reported on Friday.

I know what they're saying and so do most reasonable people but there's too much wiggle room here for me.

Rule #1: No poofters!!!

Anything less than this will be interpreted to mean that homosexuals are not ipso facto, ineligible for Holy Orders. Then it will all come down to what the defintion of "deeply rooted" means. We all know how that will be worked around- especially by people like the US episcopacy.

[B Knotts]

If this is for real, nothing is going to change. It gives the formation directors too many "outs."

[Antoninus]

Sounds good. Can't wait until it is released. Praying that it's as strong as it sounds.

[ArrogantBustard]

Blahblahblah ....

Reporters, unnamed sources, highly placed officials, excerpts, experts, unidentified accouts ... barf. What a bunch of wankers. The document hasn't been published, you buffoons! When it is, we'll read it (and all about it). Until then, find something else to report on.

[ameribbean expat]

wonder how that "openly espouse a gay culture" will be interpreted. it's okay if that do it quietly and behind the scenes? plant maple trees now so you'll have plenty of syrup to go with the waffles.

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Looks better and better. The light of dawn may be shining in the east. Nothing like the light of God's truth to cheer and enlighten. Let people who want to reject universal moral principles quit defiling religious institutions and just go hang out - well, find someplace else to hang out.

Or better yet, contact one of the many organizations that help people become free from homosexuality!

Freepmail me and DirtyHarryY2K if you want on/off this pinglist.

[Teófilo]

It would not affect those men who are already priests but only those entering seminaries to prepare for the priesthood.

Told y'all so!

-Theo

[tuesday afternoon]

A new Vatican document will bar from the priesthood practicing homosexuals, men whose gay tendencies are "deeply rooted," or who openly espouse a gay culture

I dunno. Too many loopholes for me. Practicing homosexuals is a no-brainer. Openly espousing a gay culture? So one can be a homosexual and a priest if one doesn't do gay pride parades? If one espouses behind closed doors?

The Vatican needs to just say, "No homosexual priests" and be done with it.